Nevermind, delete please

I'm getting 6,616 with this setup in Rawr v2.2.6. Updated all the items with proper stats etc. Using Blood Elf as race.

Rawr v2.2.6

So far, with the new items made available, I've gotten:

Humans: 6,788
Dwarf/Non-humans: 6,747

Rawr profiles on it's way to frmorrison for testing and upload, if they check out.

Edit: Bear in mind you need to update quite some items and socket bonuses that haven't made the latest Rawr. Voldrethar have it's old 3.40speed stats e.g.

I have been playing around with the files you've posted (and thank you for taking your time to do that) and have modified it to suit my race (Draenei) and my professions (Inscriptionist/JC) and I am able to get a load out that gets me to 6603 utilizing the constraints that you guys use and the following gear. However, I keep looking at the trinket Wrathstone and keep wondering if Rawr calculates the value based on the fact that most paladins would macro that to Avenging Wrath. Every time I attempt to make a new load-out on Rawr with [Wrathstone] in it, I fall back about 500 dps give or take. Also, if that isn't being calculated in Rawr have any of the other theorists done the math to figure out what kind of gains you would get with popping Wrathstone with Avenging Wrath everytime it's up?

Here's the gear I have for my load-out (Wishlist):

Head-----------------[Conqueror's Aegis Helm]
Neck------------------[Pendulum of Infinity]
Shoulders------------[Conqueror's Aegis Shoulderplates]
Chest-----------------[Steelbreaker's Embrace]
Waist-----------------[Soul-Devouring Cinch]
Legs------------------[Conqueror's Aegis Legplates]
Feet-------------------[Footpads of Silence]
Wrist------------------[Armbands of Bedlam]
Hands----------------[Conqueror's Aegis Gauntlets]
Finger1---------------Seal of the Betrayed King
Finger2---------------[Sif's Promise]
Trinket1--------------[Darkmoon Card: Greatness]
Trinket2--------------[Blood of the Old God]
Back------------------[Drape of the Faceless General]
MainHand------------[Voldrethar, Dark Blade of Oblivion]
Ranged--------------[Furious Gladiator's Libram of Fortitude]

Status: 6,603 dps
Health: 26,710
Strength: 2,162
Agility: 681
Attack Power: 6,754
Crit Chance: 46.34 %
Miss Chance: 0.00 %
Dodge Chance: 0.10 %
Melee Haste: 33.74 %
Weapon Damage: 2,847.85
Attack Speed: 2.60

Thanks in advance

Edited to specify that this was using 2.2.5.

At least Voldrethar is in Wowhead now, so it is easy to update.
You have the inscription as a 3rd profession, so without it is drops 40 dps or so.

6684 for Non-human Alliance and 6715 for Human with two professions. 6671 for BE (have to change one gem), looks like the set can be used for all races now.


When I reloaded Dark Matter (222 AP, 612 crit for 10sec, 15% chance on physical hit, 45 second cooldown), Wrathstone looked better, I thought that was strange (not that is matters, since Old God is better).

Hmmm, same setup as i'm using then. Maybe the additional dps on my readout is because im running 2.2.4 atm.

I'll update and check if theres a difference, however at 6,616 it's still significantly higher than the hard-mode / plate only setup listed on the OP.

EDIT: Just for clarification purposes, updating to 2.2.6 did drop the dps listed to 6,616. Cheers for the heads up.

Ah, i see. In that case I'll get back to the drawing-board.

Typo Dark Matter instead of Blood of the Old God, also I had a quick look at that set and swapping Sif's Promise for Godbane Signet puts it up to 6721.

Edit: Swap Icewalker for Greater Assault and its upto 6726 also.

Edit: Some more tweaking, by swapping Frigid strength of hodir for Pendulum of Infinity and then swapping some str gems for 8str/8hit you can get it to 6733, quite a few changes now I'll just upload mine: RapidShare: Easy Filehosting

Nope I do not. I checked my own and also downloaded the exact version I gave you, from filefront, and loaded it in - no Inscription as third profession. I screenshotted it so you can see it says "Great Axe" on the shoulders and also showing the shoulder gear section, where the version with Inscription enchant is on top, and I have the one below:

Dwarf (6747): Bildr.no
Human (6788): Bildr.no

If I enable Master's Axe aka Inscription I get 6789 on dwarf and 6831 on human. So either you forgot to update an item or a bonus, or my Rawr is bugged.

I get the same dps as Fmorrison, are you sure you have the correct stats for the new boots & wrists? can't think of any other reason why we would get different.

Yup, this was pretty much the error. I looked over the stats, and they were correct, but the bracers must have had some hidden "double" stat like I've gotten before with a BS belt. Even though I removed one stat and added another, It kept both.

I had to "borrow" another pair to use as temporary Solar Bindings, but now we're on the same page.

hmmm i downloaded the xml for checking if i am to stupid but i only get 6617 dps for human hardmode all items - yes i changed the stats on the item but no way i can't get more than 6617, buffs and settings are checked they are the same as yours. is there any known bug from RAWR wich would explain this??

*edit*

i got it RAWR keeps the old stats of voldre even with the changed stats, i dont know why >_<

When you change any item stats, you have to re-equip the item to correctly perform this action and to overwrite your old dps value.

What a few people are missing about leather gear being better than plate is that in ideal situations you can use a chest like the recluce and cap out your expertise quicker allowing you to gem/enchant or even choose a better piece of gear for another slot you would not have used before. In many cases you gain more attack power or at least the same amount plus or minus 10 but in return gain something like 60 armpen, haste, crit, agi in exchange for nothing but stam.

Comparing gear as a whole is what this thread is about not tunnel visioning one piece vs another.

Post meters if before you claim high artifically high dps.

Actually the main problem with plate is along the lines of the stam arguement rldolph posted. Plate typically has four stats, while leather/mail typically have five. There is a hidden penalty when stacking stats. As such, an item with four stats will get less out of its ilvl distribution than an item with five. Sure, you might get a drop more AP or crit, but you lose out on the haste or ArP. Sure, they may not be fantastic stats, but they don't hurt you.

I don't know how to permanently edit items so that they stay in the item cache for others. So you have to edit the items that are incorrect (see the first post, the grey items may be ones incorrect). For Voldre, just have Rawr check Wowhead (it has the right stats).

Could you double check the gemming/enchants, lsnderick? Your at 218 hit rating by my count, and cap is 230 for humans. I'd imagine at least one more hit/str gem would offer a DPS boost.

EDIT: I think replacing [Pendulum of Infinity] with [Strength of the Heavens] and putting a 8str/8hit gem in the neck is a DPS increase. It also puts you at exactly 230 hit rating.

Yeah its another 12HR from the icewalker enchant

Ah, I see. I suppose your setup with icewalker would be more DPS than my setup with 32 AP, though they are probably VERY close.

I got a little more out of this setup using 32 AP on boots, switching the gem in the shoulders to 16 strength, and using Frigid Strength of Hodir. Got it upto 6769 with the same buffs. Not a huge upgrade, but a little better.

I then played around with sets involving the new Comets Trail trinket found off Algalon25 and managed to get a set upto 6800.


Head: [Conqueror's Aegis Helm] - Chaotic + 20str
Amulet: [Frigid Strength of Hodir] - 16str
Shoulders: [Conqueror's Aegis Shoulderplates] - 16hit
Cloak: [Drape of the Faceless General] - 16 str + 8str/8hit
Chest: [Embrace of the Gladiator] - 16str + 16str + 16str
Wrist: [Solar Bindings] - 8str/8hit + 16str
Hands: [Conqueror's Aegis Gauntlets] - 16str + 16str
Waist: [Soul-Devouring Cinch] - 16str + 16str + 16str
Legs: [Conqueror's Aegis Legplates] - 16str + 27str
Feet: [Sabatons of Lifeless Night] - 16str + 16str
Ring1: [Bladebearer's Signet]
Ring2: [Seal of the Betrayed King] - 27str
Trinket1: [Comets Trail]
Trinket2: [Darkmoon Card: Greatness]
Weapon: [Voldrethar, Dark Blade of Oblivion] - 16str + 27str
Libram: [Furious Gladiator's Libram of Fortitude]


Edit: This last set is assuming the proc rate is fairly high, and the ICD is 45 seconds.

Beta, that set confuses me. I'm probably missing something, but I don't see where you're making up for the hit you lost from [Blood of the Old God].

By my count, you've made up:

46 + 8 + 16 = 70 hit out of 108. What am I missing?

Frigid Strength of Hodir for Pendulum of Infinity gives 40 additional hit, putting him at 110, replacing the Blood.