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As mentioned before, here is a setup that gives 6681 dps (although less optimal imo)

Warhelm of the Champion (8str 8crit gem)
Frigid Strength of Hodir *
Shoulderpads of the Intruder
Drape of the Faceless General
Embrace of the Gladiator
Solar Bindings
Conqueror's Aegis Gauntlets
Soul-Devouring Cinch (+20 str gem)
Plated Leggings of Ruination (8str 8 hit gem) *
Sabatons of Lifeless Night
Seal of the Betrayed King *
Bladebearer's Signet
Darkmoon Card: Greatness
Comet's Trail
Furious Gladiator's Libram of Fortitude
Voldrethar, Dark Blade of Oblvion

*note* Comet's Trail and Dark Matter both show the exact same DPS for me.

1.xml Download File

Step 1: Make an account on Filefront.

Step 2: Upload file

Step 3: Give us a link to said file.

I was bored and did the test.

Your setup is 6244 dps.
If I add every possible tradeskill, I still only have 6439 dps in it.
If I check the 'bloodlust' checkbox under buffs (which means that you have 100% uptime on bloodlust. It's only there for testing) AND use every possible tradeskill, I get 7087 dps with it.

I don't think you should bother uploading the profile, just make sure the bloodlust under 'buffs' isn't checked and double check for tradeskills again. (the best enchants on ring/cloak/bracers/gloves/shoulders are all tradeskill perks, you shouldn't pick them!)

You might want to check the bold part.

Sir, i did not have all the trade skills checked. I only had Blacksmith and Jewelcrafting. And i di have bloodlust checked because the OP SAID so. Thx.

There You Go

BIS_Ret_Paladin.xml Download File

My apologies. That one had Enchanting with ap on rings instead of the Blacksmith sockets. For a higher dps, remove the ring enchants, and add the blacksmith sockets with 16 str on both. And also with icewalker on the boots instead of the AP. Sorry! =[

As said above me, there is a bloodlust under 'options' (which the op clearly states) and one under 'buffs' (which my post clearly states).

Please don't waste our time with this (especially if you're going to post snide replies when we bother pointing out mistakes), you could have seen this if you spent either some more time reading the posts or downloaded a profile from the OP and just changed the items there. (which is what I recommend you do if you make a new BiS)

I'm curious to see how the upcoming seal changes will affect DPS for these items, or overall Ret DPS for that matter.

Will the standard FCFS rotation apply? Or is it going to need some major tweaking? Especially in light of the 1.5 sec Exorcism cast... *sigh*

The biggest effect on item DPS from the patch will be the SoV glyph (assuming it stays), as gear sets will be able to drop a decent chunk of expertise.

Our rotation hasn't much changed (assuming same CD on exo), you just CS more often.

Right. I wonder if blizz's intent is for you to dip into the holy tree to get the 3-15% bonus dmg to Vengeance in order to keep Dps on the same level?

As far as gear and the SOV glph I am doubtful our gear will change much. to regear for that 10 expertise we have to replace it with other comparable gear with no expertise and no hit because it is so easy to get hit capped and right now it is more like we are avoiding the hard mode hit plate like the plague cause we cannot use it.

It depends on what new gear comes out in 3.2 but right now I would rather keep my current glph setup then drop expertise gear. I do find it interesting though. Possibly could have mimiron's hard mode bracers back in the BIS position but we would have to drop more expertise from gear than that which the only other option that is any good is a ring with armpen...

The bigger impact which also seems like the current BIS gear favors is epic gems. The more sockets the better in gear cause you can load up on more Str. Again our BIS set looks good here because almost all our BIS pieces has the maximum amount of sockets for its slot.

I was browsing the Human BiS gear list and i noticed that the downloadable xml file auto-equips a green trinket and a blue set of bracers. aside from that, i was only seeing 6515 dps from this build, and i doubt that 3 socket bonuses could make up the difference of 200 dps. when changing it around a bit, (adding bracers of bedlam and wrathstone + switching up the gems on the gear) i still only see 6560 dps. this is using the exact same options and buffs as each file should be using.

You need to edit the bracers and trinket to the stats of Solar Binding's and Comet's Trial.
Having done those, + adding some socket bonuses, I must admit I can't reach over 6695 (and this required changing some gems around as well) dps in the set myself, which is still quite a bit lower than the OP states.
If someone else could be so kind as to try to recreate the set? I may have made a mistake somewhere.

ps: for some reason, my rawr 'dps breakdown' sometimes isnt updating untill I open/close the profile, the same is happening to say, the priest module when I change from "custom setup" to "raid healing", etc. Is this a known bug?

I uploaded the profile I made: http://users.telenet.be/oc/BiS%20Human.xml

Nice, I got 6702 dps out of it.

Exactly, you have to edit those two items manually (until wowhead/armory gets them).

I still get 6761 dps out of the Human set.

Since I can't reproduce those results, here is what I get:
- fresh downloaded profile: 6386
- edited bracers: 6545
- edited trinket: 6761

The inscription enchant is marked marked for the optimiser in the OP profile, may want to turn this off. The gloves still have an expertise gem which is best changed to another strenght gem according to 2.2.7, leading to 6765 dps.

The hard-mode plate priority list is completely borked at the moment.

No it was that it was still using Blood of the Old God which caused it to be at like 350 hit.

So, seeing as other people seem to be having some issues as well...

I downloaded the Human BiS files and made sure to check for the bracers and trinket to have the correct stats and even with that, I can't brake 6700 with it.

I then wen't from item to item, checking their stats, gemming and enchants, refreshing each time. Dunno if it was only here, but the file I DLed appeared with the LW only shoulder enchant, while using BS/JC bonuses as well, so could people check that as well?

And although we're during a "change" process in PTR, wich could change some gear around, I'd like at least to reproduce here the DPS you guys are achieving with this BiS, so any help is appreciated.

I don't know why the file would give you issues. I just zip and upload what I have, so I am surprised you have issues when others do not (or at least they don't post about it). Note the exalted Hodir shoulder enchant has "Inscription" in the title, even though it doesn't use that profession.

I listed every option and assumption I used so someone could create the list from scratch. It isn't the easiest to use program, but once you figure it out it helps a lot.

I feel like a rock for not being able to get this right, but everytime I DL/unzip/upload the file contained inside I get waaaay low settings then you guys are getting with that setup.

Right now I'm using the 2.2.7 version of Rawr and what amazes me is that other sets work fine for me, with the exception of 1 or 2 that are not even BiS anymore (and those were for BElfs anyway).

I tried upgrading the database of Rawr with the real bracer and trinket, as those are in Wowhead now and still wasn't at the set value.

I even wen't to as far as creating a blanket char and setting every single item back again and each time I included 1 item, I saved and reloaded the program to see if I was having any refresh or whatever issue. Didn't work as well.

I'm clueless at what could be as I have been using Rawr for quite a while and thought I was friendly with it, but this seems to be pwning me.

I'll try to look foward to fixing this so I don't cluster this thread with a Rawr solution discussion when it should be about BiS sets. Thanks anyway for your time to answer this and I'll see what I can do for myself.

Wait, perhaps you have something. I haven't looked at a few of the sets in a a while (because they did not change), so with Rawr updates perhaps those files got corrupted or something. It helps if you said the files name(s) that had an issue.

The Non-Hard mode (Blood Elf) Plate/Leather set is now showing 6,282 dps instead of 6,314 when I download the file. The Non-Hard mode (Blood Elf) Plate priority set is showing 6,257 dps instead of the listed 6,267.

Only two I've noticed personally that have changed for some reason.