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Old 10/25/09, 2:30 PM   #276
Redcape
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Vek'nilash
Using my spreadsheet I have found the effective CD on DS to be 2.98 seconds with a .1 sec latency and assuming AA, Judge, CS, DS proc the reset. The highest dps rotation was Judge, DS, CS, <whatever> because <whatever> didn't get cast. This all assuming t10 2p obviously.

The dps difference of t10 2p was higher than any other set bonus, second was t10 4p and third was t9 2p.
 
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Old 10/25/09, 4:40 PM   #277
 frmorrison
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Originally Posted by Josefar View Post
OP lists HoW>Judgement>CS>DS>Cons>Exo rotation for the BiS sets, has this changed to Judgement>CS>DS>Cons>HoW>Exo?
The difference is 5-10 dps in Rawr and Rawr isn't 100% accurate (assumes boss doesn't move).

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Old 10/27/09, 3:01 AM   #278
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It's been kinda long time I read the BIS thread, so big apologies if it was already discussed and concluded...

It's been proved that both procs of different versions of Death's Verdict, heroic and normal, albeit the fact that they do have the same name proc, stack.

So, considering that they stack, why exactly is Darkmoon Card still best second trinket and not the normal version of Death's Verdict?
 
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Old 10/27/09, 5:51 AM   #279
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Because getting the 2 best physical damage dealer trinket isn't fair to your guild mates, so probably you will never get them.
 
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Old 10/27/09, 9:54 AM   #280
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Considering that the BiS set even includes leather, wich mind you has many BiS itens for druids and rogues and the purpose of this thread and specifically the all itens BiS build up is to achieve the highest possible setup for dps, I don't see a "not fair" reason being valid.
 
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Old 10/27/09, 11:45 AM   #281
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Then feel free to make your own BIS thread incorporating it. It would also be helpful if before asking questions you read the thread, where your question had been answered multiple times.
 
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Old 10/27/09, 7:32 PM   #282
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New BiS threat for the Alliance, 20 dps higher using the Tier Leggings. That was interesting that you are past nearly 1% hit and 1% expertise capped for best setup.

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Old 10/28/09, 2:25 AM   #283
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Thanks for all the hard work guys. LTRFTP

Sorry I missed the many posts in here about my question.

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Old 10/28/09, 11:32 AM   #284
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Originally Posted by kris4647 View Post
Thanks for all the hard work guys. LTRFTP

Quick question...

Running Rawr thro many different Permutations I see double Death's Verdict coming out ahead of Greatnes/Death's. Am I way off base there? I know Rawr is situational to your gear but straight AP trinks shouldn't follo suite...............................or do they


Thanks for your help.
Death's Verdict (245 and 258 versions) has static AP AND a str/agi proc similar to Greatness (higher in both cases). This is why Dual Death's Verdict is ahead.
 
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Old 11/10/09, 11:10 PM   #285
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Originally Posted by frmorrison View Post
New BiS threat for the Alliance, 20 dps higher using the Tier Leggings. That was interesting that you are past nearly 1% hit and 1% expertise capped for best setup.
I'm seeing the same result. Any idea why it changed?

Also, you've somehow managed to have a mix of alliance and horde drops in your bis.
 
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Old 11/11/09, 10:39 AM   #286
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Originally Posted by rpalchau View Post
Also, you've somehow managed to have a mix of alliance and horde drops in your
bis.
I don't care enough to check if one piece is Alliance or the Horde version now, however most of were correct at the beginning. The stats are correct, which is the important thing.

A good thing about ICC is they plan on having one set of gear (there still would be differences due to 1% hit from space goats) so that makes it less confusing.

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Old 11/11/09, 4:18 PM   #287
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Dwarf BiS atm: - 2shared - download BiS Dwarf.rar - 9880 DPS with SoV glyph. Take same setup for Human BiS, but swap out the boots with Greaves of 7th Legion, ends up at 9863 DPS.
 
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Old 11/12/09, 5:19 AM   #288
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Forgot you ain't including dual Verdict's, but it's an upgrade even if you swap in Greatness, to the existing BiS models.
 
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