Once 3.2.2 comes live, will Potion of Wild Magic outperform Potion of Speed? Haven't seen it brought up yet.
With 2piece bonus in mind ofcourse

ArP's value has dropped, it is now the worst dps stat.
2.2.17 had the 3.2 value of ArP. 2.2.18 has the 3.2.2 value, so you should upgrade.

I updated the numbers, the sets lost between 10-20 dps but in reality you gain a lot more due to 2 piece working properly.

Crit is a good stat, but spell power really sucks. Potion of Speed is still the best.

Playing around with rawr for the non t9 hard mode pieces i ended up with this :


Head Liadrin's Helm of Triumph 245 /w RED, Str/Crit
Neck The Executioner's Vice 258 /w Str/Crit
Shoulders Liadrin's Shoulderplates of Triumph 245 /w Str
Chest Chestplate of the Frostwolf Hero 258 /w Str*, Str*, Str*
Waist Bloodbath Girdle 258 /w Str/Crit, Str/Crit, Str
Legs Legplates of Ascension 258 /w Str, Str, Str
Feet Greaves of the Saronite Citadel 258 /w Str/Crit, Str
Wrist Armbands of Bedlam 239 /w Str, Str
Hands Gauntlets of Bitter Reprisal 258 /w Str, Str, Str
Finger1 Carnivorous Band 245 /w Str, Str
Finger2 Ring of the Violent Temperament 258 /w Str/Crit
Trinket1 Darkmoon Card: Greatness
Trinket2 Death's Choice 258
Back Garrosh's Rage 272 /w Str
MainHand Dual-blade Butcher 258 /w Str, Nightmare
Ranged Libram of Valiance

Race: BloodElf
Status: 9.306 dps
Profs: BS/JC (* denotes a Bold Dragon's Eye)

Fight 6 mins, Humanoid Mob, Seal of Vengeance, usual other parameters.
Rotation : FCFS : HoW, Jud, CS, DS, Cons, Exo
Spec : 5/11/55

No agility gear.


(i'm at work and i don't have the possibility to upload the xml, will do asap)

@fmorrison : if you think it's worth anything i'll convert the items to hyperlink for you to add in the op

Good work on using a heroic mode list with 245 set pieces. I don't know if that is worth listing in the OP (there are already six sets), but if other people want to see this "realistic" BiS set I will upload this one.

Slowly but surely guilds are getting Anub'arak within 50 attempts. I'd keep the OP as simple and clear as possible, but perhaps provide links to "realistic BiS" posts.

I think I found a new BIS list. It is slightly different than the OP's. The result comes out to 9683 dps.

Helm - [Liadrin's Helm of Triumph]
Neck - [Charge of the Eredar]
Shoulders - [Liadrin's Shoulderplates of Triumph]
Cloak - Garrosh's Rage
Chest - [Cuirass of Calamitous Fate]
Bracers - Armbands of Dark Determination
Gloves - [Liadrin's Gauntlets of Triumph]
Waist - [Bloodbath Girdle]
Legs - [Legplates of Ascension]
Feet - [Greaves of the Saronite Citadel]
Ring1 - [Ring of the Violent Temperament]
Ring2 - [Ring of Callous Aggression]
Trinket1 - [Death's Choice]
Trinket2 - [Darkmoon Card: Greatness]
Libram - [Libram of Valiance]
Weapon - [Dual-blade Butcher]



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After updating to Rawr version 2.2.19, i am getting signifcantly lower numbers (about 600 DPS less) than what you say you got, and what I originally got in the 2.2.17 version. Could this just be due to the Armor Penetration changes? Or am I missing something that got messed up in the update?

The ArP nerf was a 10-20 dps loss. With 2.2.19, you have to click both buffs under Blessing of Kings (the first is 10% agil/int/spirt, the second is str/stam). That 600 dps is losing 10% strength.

Just wondering why Legplates of Ascension are listed in the "Normal Mode" set?
Aren't they 258 only?

Plus I think you still have the 258 shoulders listed in this set as well.

[Legplates of Ascension]

245, from normal 25man.

Edit: And yes, the alliance normal shoulders are still the 258 ones.

With the exception of some weapons/items that only drop from the chest after Anub if you have 25 or more wipes remaining, all 258 pieces have a 245 version, as well as all 245 pieces have a 232 version.

I made sure it showed 245 for alliance (the horde one was 245)

Thank you. I changed it on my post to reflect the correct gloves. You got 7 more dps than the other BiS set or 7 more dps than what I got at 9683?

Still getting 9709 from this Blood Elf Leather/Plate set:

[Liadrin's Helm of Triumph]
[Charge of the Eredar]
[Liadrin's Shoulderplates of Triumph]
Sylvanas' Cunning
[Vest of Calamitous Fate]
[Bracers of Dark Determination]
[Liadrin's Gauntlets of Triumph]
[Belt of the Pitiless Killer]
[Liadrin's Legplates of Triumph]
[Greaves of the Saronite Citadel]
[Ring of the Violent Temperament]
[Ring of Callous Aggression]
[Death's Choice]
[Darkmoon Card: Greatness]
[Dual-blade Butcher]
[Libram of Valiance]

maybe im missing something or didnt see a post, but do i have to manually put in the Gloves of the Silver Assassin?
It only shows up in your list Ash, not in the regular RAWR

That only shows up in the Alliance all items BiS list. If your program doesn't list that item from Heroic ToGC (check your filters to see if checked), then goto filter drop down menu then click "ALL" near the bottom.

perfect, thanks man

In short, dual Death's Choice/Verdict are BiS. Greatness is 3rd.

Just wanted to make one small correction for the page 1 list. The Alliance BiS Heroic + All Items lists Vest of Calamitous Fate as the chest. This is the HORDE chest, so it should be replaced by the Alliance equivalent Cuirass of Calamitous Fate.

This is similar to what I got except change boots to icewalker enchant and the gem in the helm to 10 str 10 crit and you get 9715 DPS

Alright, I updated the set. The extra expertise this set has helps when you use Command for AoE or forget to move behind the mob, so that is a bonus.

The belt used to reach the 9715 is [Belt of the Pitiless Killer] from Heroic Twins. The updated original post still lists [Bloodbath Belt].

The Rawr file was right! I fixed it the item link.