Zurm, have you had a chance to post this UI to wowinterface?

I would like to specially point this out because it would help with the use of the SoV/SoC macros stated earlier (and copied bellow) and also asign CLCRet profiles to it (a limitation from the blizz macro ui that was noted in the post that described these macros)

MACROS:

Seal of Command:

Seal of Vengeance:
*** /clcrreteq <insert rotation> code line used to input the correct priorization based on seal.
*** SoC Libram is the [Deadly Gladiator's Libram of Fortitude]

Your macros are too long. However, you can remove the showtooltip to clean them up.

I meant those for an addon like Bindpad.

* Edited the macros above to use direct rotation input rather than presets.

I have not. I had to come in to work this weekend, so aside from being heavily sleep deprived I just didn't have the willpower to put everything together. I have lots of cleaning up and testing to do before I post it, but rest assured when I am done I will.

I'm adding bindpad to the non-essentials, as it seems it could be quite useful.

Okay... I am a HUGE UI whore (I am borderline OCD, so everything MUST fit just right)... and I just found this thread, so I am going to quote several posts in one chain-response.

This is probably the single BIGGEST UI mod to help your view... and it has been almost ignored (other than telling someone what it actually is). I use Sunn Viewport. The simple reason that I say this is one of the MOST important UI mods, is because you can resize your view so that nothing in your UI is actually taking up VIEWING.

As an example, Zurm... in the video that you linked of your Anub kill (using that as my reference)... with Sunn Viewport, you can check the box to "resize viewport" and everything that is "under" your UI will now sit on top of the sun mod, and the image that was being overlayed is moved up... and widening your view. Nothing on your UI is ever covered unless you put something there (like Power Arua Classic). With your UI setup like it is in your video, you can't see anything below that "line"... but if you resized your viewport, it would bring it all back into view. Helpful when someone has Legion Flame and is running just below your field of view (covered by mods)... or if "a n00b" is kiting Anub right at you. Response time can be the difference between life or death.

The main reason that I use Vuhdo over Grid/clique is that clique is a button bind, and grid is a clickable box. I don't like using modifiers in combat unless it is REALLY needed, so using clique while being a dual-spec ret/prot is out. When I am in Prot-spec, I use my mouse-binding for my tanking abilities (Righteous Defense, Avenger's Shield, etc), and making those buttons USELESS by using clique is not ideal.

Vuhdo basically is the same thing as using Grid with mouseover macros, except instead of writing the macro yourself, Vuhdo does it for you. With my 7 buttons [and modifiers for abilities that I don't want to use accidentally (DI, anyone?)]... it keeps my "mouse button 4" available for other abilities when I am not trying to Salv our threat-whoring-lock.

Pallypower does this... just mousing over the aura button and scroll your mouse wheel will allow you to change your aura... and you can do the same thing with your seal. It allowed me to turn off my "stance bar" in bartender. I am not saying that PP is the best ever... just that you can easily change your Aura/Seal without ever opening the pannel. It works with the blessings too.


Now... onto my suggestions for addons:
People have mentioned using healbot for cleansing/purifing... but Decursive is a much better mod for that, imo. It is very lightweight, and EXTREMELY minimalistic on your UI. Simply put, it gives you a tiny (**TINY**) box for each person in your raid, and clicking on that box will cast cleanse/purify automagically. It will give you an audible indication that someone has been effected (curse, poisoned, etc), and on mouseover it will display what the spell is, and how many stacks they currently have.

This is a FANTASTIC addon for situations like Faction Champs, when your healers are being silenced, and was useful for getting rid of Decrepit Fever on Heigan (when we didn't have a shammy totem). It is so efficient that it is a required raid addon for my guild.

On the subject of macro addons... another one that is really great is Super Duper Macro. It will not only allow you to go past the 255 character limit, but you can have more than 1023 characters in your macro as long as they are not in the same line. It is great for making faceroll macros, or for macros like the ones posted in this thread.

Lastly, Thanks to Zurm for making this thread... I have found a few new addons that I will be giving a try in the next few days.

Not true, you cannot use the class buttons in combat, but if you mouse over when the individual person list pops out, you can click on an individual name to buff that person.

Ah, good to know. However it is true that you can't switch PallyPower's aura or seal once combat is engaged (but you can click to rebuff).

If you are already using VuhDo, why do you need Decursive? You can set up VuhDo to show all the debuffs that you can cleanse (you can even set it up to show the icon for the debuff), and just assign a mouse-click to cleansing (I have my scroll wheel up assigned to cleanse in VuhDo, for example, so cleansing is super easy). I find it much easier, personally, to just use one set of raid frames (VuhDo) rather than wasting space on two (and although Decursive doesn't take up much space, I still don't see the need for a separate raid frame just for cleansing).

This is quite true. Additionally on your raid frames you can immediately see debuffs on the entire raid simultaneously, knowing to prioritize this one over that one (say, Silence or Wound Poison over a Moonfire). On Decursive you have to mouse over everyone individually, wasting time looking to see what's important or cleansing an unimportant debuff.

Finally, I use Grid which alphabetizes the raid in each group - it's easy to know where everyone is going to be from raid to raid, even if they're in different groups. I'm fairly certain most raid frames (such as VuhDo) organize somehow, whether by class, alphabetically, by role, whatever. Decursive uses the WoW default UI's organization - which can take the same raid in the same groups and assign them completely different orders between two days. Now you've got to figure out if that third square was the MT who needed a cleanse, or that stupid guy who drank an endless sleep potion.

Decursive is nice for 5man or BG, but for serious raiding having more involvement is better. This isn't MC or BWL anymore where 2+ people's jobs are just to stand there and spam cleanse via a mod that does it all for you.

VuhDo actually has 4 options for group sorting, Class, UnitID, Name or MaxHP (you can also invert those). There is also a "Loose" grouping option which I think gives you a little more specific control on how groups and players show up but I haven't played too much with that setting. Aside from a few things early on before more options were added I haven't really found any problems switching over. Most people if they saw a screenshot of my UI would probably figure I was still using Grid.

So the original vanilla-WoW of Decursive has been implemented again? I thought that was irrevocably nerfed out during the 2.X series of patches. If you do indeed have the ability to use a single button to cycle through the decurse list without having to target, then yes, Decursive should be a clear choice if you intend to cleanse frequently in a raiding situation.

If you do indeed have to target the unit in some way though, setting your raid frames to clearly highlight debuffs you can cleanse, and keeping them relatively compact while using a click-bind or a mouseover macro still makes more sense to me, whether it's built into something like VuhDo / Healbot or not.

No, the old decursive worked with literally one button, it auto-targetted and everything. The current one gives you a little grid and the boxes turn red, and clicking a red box will cure that box (player). I'd actually advise against decursive and dispelling mods, mouseover macros in combination with grid is far superior in terms of performance and reliability. I use a ton of mouseover macros in general, because I find a very slight reaction time increase in mousing over a target while pressing a keyboard button vs having to mouse over someone and actually click. Also, keybinds react on key press, while clicking always reacts on release.

Zurm, I'll submit Chatter as a nice mod to have. I wouldn't call it essential but I definitely notice that it can help, even in raids. It has a very nice interaction with MSBT, for example if your name is said in a chat channel a snippet of text will appear in a designated MSBT zone. It's saved headaches and endless scrolling up on more than one occasion (also it works with a mousewheel).

Also, ShadowedUnitFrames is quite nice (heavily customizable, lightweight, has it's own arena frames ect) and is maintained/updated regularly by Mayen, who you can conveniently bug on these forums. I found it a lot easier to setup compared to pitbull and it looks good too.

I agree with Arikah, Chatter is invaluable (would need a new category of chat modification) and I prefer SUF as well over Pitbull4.

Alright, I'll add both then. I currently use chatter, and agree, it's excellent. I just didn't want to inundate the thread with mods that don't actually HELP anything (unless others felt it did as well).

I'll probably give shadowed UF a try, I've actually had some personal gripes with pitbull for a short while now involving aura setup so hopefully shadowed will be a good replacement.

I've been using Shadowed's unitframes since around July, and I haven't yet found a feature that Pitbull has which is missing SUF that I'd actually want (mainly vertical bars, or more than 1 empty bar). The text is easy to customize, the bars will use your SharedMedia textures, and every frame can be anchored to every other frame. The only issue I've had is that they won't pick up an MT list other than the default Blizzard, so if you're using ORA2, you're out of luck unless your raid also assigns the Blizz defaults. I asked about this in the UI forum, and Shadowed's said that he has no intention of changing this. The good news is that ORA3 will use the Blizzard tank list, and once it has its own frames added, the adoption rate will likely skyrocket.

On the issue of Chatter though, there are a some features in both it and it's ACE'd counterpart Prat which you can leverage to your advantage in a raid situation. Mainly, I find it useful to turn on the pop-up alert feature that triggers on certain keywords you define. That way, anytime somebody types a message with my name, my character name, or any related abbreviations, the line of chat text can be pushed through as a raid warning. It will also highlight your character name in the actual chat window where it appears in the text, making it much quicker to find yourself in typed out raid assignments, reports from meters, etc..

@Arikah: Right, but that one-button functionality is what JU1CYFRU1T described, hence my confusion. To clarify, the current versions of Decursive require that you actually target by mouseover at minimum one of the microframes in order to cleanse.

For the average ilvl 245 geared player and even in full BIS, the highest DPS priority order with SoV from Rawr is J>C>DS>CONS>HOW>EXO.

Not sure why use Shadowed UF, why not use xperl to simply show the debuff that you can clease and save the extra mod. Not sure i understand what makes this mod uniqe

Shadowed Unit Frame is an UI excactly like X-Perl and not an extra mod. Using both does not work. Tracking cleansable debuffs is supported as well and furthermore it seems much more configurable than any known unit interface addon.
There are other features as well like an arena frame, a CC timer and anchoring.

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depends on personal preference. i use decursive for so long i know exactly what dot is what raider so i can distinguish whom i want to cleanse and from what. i personaly don't like mouseover macros and prefer the clicking way and the addon works really nice when you get used to it.
anyway i'm here to seek some advice. we're curently progressing anub hc and i would use addon to track cast bars of all 4 adds under their respective nameplates (so i dont have to put mine in focus everytime new set comes) but every single castbar addon i found works only for target/focus. nature enemycastbar is able to track everything, but in one place where i can't say who's casting what and react. is there anything like that around?

Per Blizzard, in 3.3 nameplates should show casts for all mobs around, current target or not. Of course that's a patch too late.

I'm not sure why you would track Burrow. Shadow Strike is cast by all 4 simultaneously. Boss timers tell (very accurately) when Shadow Strike will be cast. A single Holy Wrath should interrupt all 4 cast (or, typically preferred, stun a second or two in advance to prevent cast entirely).

Finally, the Burrowers have very visible cast animations. If one is not interrupted, just look at the mobs, not the nameplates over them.

Finally, if you're tanking all 4 (ouch), intentionally targeting a specific one is likely intensely difficult, tab targeting rapidly is probably as good as any other system. If you're tanking only 2, if your current target isn't casting, then you instantly know it's the other.

i don't tank them. i usually have to interupt all four of them but as we're really starting on that encounter, our tanks are often far from each other and while standing under the boss i don't see if i had interupted both sides or just one