Contents

1Introduction 2Heroic Plate Priority List 3Heroic All Items Priority List 4Normal Plate Priority Items List 5Ruby Sanctum Patch 3.3.5 Plate Priority BiS 6Ruby Sanctum Patch 3.3.5 All Item BiS 7Ruby Sanctum Patch 3.3.5 Normal Mode Plate Priority BiS 8Frequently Asked Questions 9Assumptions used in Rawr

[top]Introduction

In the context of this thread, "Best in Slot" means the best items assuming you had access to all 25 man items. Note the point of these lists is not that you only should only equip these items; you should use any upgrade even if it is not listed here. There are many different gear variations that are marginally less dps.
The first two lists are based on all Heroic Mode items and whether you are allowed to use only Plate (Strength based but you can use agility items from quests and vendors) Items or All Items and then the final list uses Normal Mode items only. For people interested in how these lists were determined, the bottom of this post lists the FAQ and the settings that were used in Rawr 2.3.19. Post in this thread or use a private message for further questions and explanations.

[top]Heroic Plate Priority List

Item Name
Head: [Sanctified Lightsworn Helmet]	Sanctified Lightsworn Helmet
Neck: [Ahn'kahar Onyx Neckguard]	Ahn'kahar Onyx Neckguard
Shoulders: [Sanctified Lightsworn Shoulderplates]	Sanctified Lightsworn Shoulderplates
Back: [Winding Sheet]	Winding Sheet
Chest: [Sanctified Lightsworn Battleplate]	Sanctified Lightsworn Battleplate
Wrist: [Polar Bear Claw Bracers]	Polar Bear Claw Bracers
Wrist(Alliance): [Taiga Bindings]	Taiga Bindings
Hands: [Fleshrending Gauntlets]	Fleshrending Gauntlets
Waist: [Coldwraith Links]	Coldwraith Links
Legs: [Sanctified Lightsworn Legplates]	Sanctified Lightsworn Legplates
Feet: [Blood-Soaked Saronite Stompers]	Blood-Soaked Saronite Stompers
Finger1: [Might of Blight]	Might of Blight -
Finger2: [Ashen Band of Endless Vengeance]	Ashen Band of Endless Vengeance
Trinket1: [Death's Choice]	Death's Choice
Trinket2: [Tiny Abomination in a Jar]	Tiny Abomination in a Jar
Main Hand: [Glorenzelg, High-Blade of the Silver Hand] or [Shadowmourne]	Glorenzelg, High-Blade of the Silver Hand or Shadowmourne
Ranged: [Libram of Three Truths]	Libram of Three Truths
DPS: 12,408 (13,430 with Shadowmourne)
BiS Heroic.zip

[top]Heroic All Items Priority List

Item Name
Head: [Sanctified Lightsworn Helmet] Use one 20 expertise gem in this set	Sanctified Lightsworn Helmet -
Neck: [Sindragosa's Cruel Claw]	Sindragosa's Cruel Claw
Shoulders: [Sanctified Lightsworn Shoulderplates]	Sanctified Lightsworn Shoulderplates
Back: [Shadowvault Slayer's Cloak]	Shadowvault Slayer's Cloak
Chest: [Sanctified Lightsworn Battleplate]	Sanctified Lightsworn Battleplate
Wrist: [Polar Bear Claw Bracers]	Polar Bear Claw Bracers
Wrist(Alliance): [Toskk's Maximized Wristguards]	Toskk's Maximized Wristguards
Hands: [Fleshrending Gauntlets]	Fleshrending Gauntlets
Waist: [Astrylian's Sutured Cinch]	Astrylian's Sutured Cinch
Legs: [Sanctified Lightsworn Legplates]	Sanctified Lightsworn Legplates
Feet: [Frostbitten Fur Boots]	Frostbitten Fur Boots
Finger1: [Band of the Bone Colossus]	Band of the Bone Colossus
Finger2: [Ashen Band of Endless Vengeance]	Ashen Band of Endless Vengeance
Trinket1: [Death's Choice]	Death's Choice
Trinket2: [Tiny Abomination in a Jar]	Tiny Abomination in a Jar
Main Hand: [Oathbinder, Charge of the Ranger-General] or [Shadowmourne]	Oathbinder, Charge of the Ranger-General or Shadowmourne
Ranged: [Libram of Three Truths]	Libram of Three Truths
DPS: 12,537 (13,708 with Shadowmourne)
BiS Heroic All Items.zip

[top]Normal Plate Priority Items List

Item Name
Head: [Sanctified Lightsworn Helmet]	Sanctified Lightsworn Helmet
Neck: [Ahn'kahar Onyx Neckguard]	Ahn'kahar Onyx Neckguard
Shoulders: [Sanctified Lightsworn Shoulderplates]	Sanctified Lightsworn Shoulderplates
Back: [Winding Sheet]	Winding Sheet
Chest: [Sanctified Lightsworn Battleplate]	Sanctified Lightsworn Battleplate
Wrist: [Polar Bear Claw Bracers]	Polar Bear Claw Bracers
Hands: [Fleshrending Gauntlets]	Fleshrending Gauntlets
Waist: [Coldwraith Links]	Coldwraith Links
Legs: [Sanctified Lightsworn Legplates]	Sanctified Lightsworn Legplates
Feet: [Blood-Soaked Saronite Stompers]	Blood-Soaked Saronite Stompers
Finger1: [Skeleton Lord's Circle]	Skeleton Lord's Band
Finger2: [Ashen Band of Endless Vengeance]	Ashen Band of Endless Vengeance
Trinket1: [Death's Choice]	Death's Choice
Trinket2: [Tiny Abomination in a Jar]	Tiny Abomination in a Jar
Main Hand: [Bryntroll, the Bone Arbiter]/[Shadow's Edge]*	Bryntroll, the Bone Arbiter or Shadow's Edge
Ranged: [Libram of Three Truths]	Libram of Three Truths
DPS: 10,859/11,054 with SE (12,660 with Shadowmourne)
BiS Normal.zip *SE is 190 dps better if you can acquire it

For an All Items Normal List, use the Heroic list downgrading to the item level 264 version and 264 Bloodfall.

[top]Ruby Sanctum Patch 3.3.5 Plate Priority BiS

Neck: [Ahn'kahar Onyx Neckguard] =>[Penumbra Pendant]
Boots: [Blood-Soaked Saronite Stompers] => [Apocalypse's Advance]
Wrist (Alliance): [Taiga Bindings] => [Bracers of the Heir]
Trinket: [Death's Choice]=> [Sharpened Twilight Scale]

[top]Ruby Sanctum Patch 3.3.5 All Item BiS

Wrist: [Polar Bear Claw Bracers] => [Umbrage Armbands]
Ring: [Band of the Bone Colossus] => [Signet of the Twilight Prophet]
Trinket: [Death's Choice]=> [Sharpened Twilight Scale]
Boots: [Frostbitten Fur Boots] => [Apocalypse's Advance]
Neck: [Sindragosa's Cruel Claw] => [Penumbra Pendant]

[top]Ruby Sanctum Patch 3.3.5 Normal Mode Plate Priority BiS

Neck: [Ahn'kahar Onyx Neckguard] =>[Penumbra Pendant]
Boots: [Blood-Soaked Saronite Stompers] => [Apocalypse's Advance]

[top]Frequently Asked Questions

When I load your Rawr file, I get a different result. Why is that happening?
Check all settings to ensure they match the ones listed here such as the delay/wait setting are set to 0.2 seconds. It may also help to download the particular list's zip file so you get the exact gems/enchants I used. Rawr's modeling of TAJ and Shadowmourne do not need to be tweaked. If you have Shadowmourne, use this mod FreeMe.zip for more dps.

What is the general trinket ranking?
Tiny Abomination in a Jar(Heroic)>Tiny Abomination in a Jar>Sharpened Twilight Scale (heroic)>Death's Choice (heroic)>Whispering Fanged Skull (heroic)>Death's Choice>Sharpened Twilight Scale>Whispering Fanged Skull>Herkuml War Token>Deathbringer's Will(heroic)>Deathbringer's Will>DMC:Greatness (Strength)>Needle-Encrusted Scorpion>Banner of Victory

What is the general weapon ranking? This compares all weapons and uses the lists above (so hit/expertise is wasted)
Shadowmourne - > Oathbinder, Charge of the Ranger-General - > Glorenzelg, High-Blade of the Silver Hand - > Bloodfall - > Bryntroll, the Bone Arbiter - > Warmace of Menethil - > Cryptmaker - > Oathbinder, Charge of the Ranger-General - > Glorenzelg, High-Blade of the Silver Hand - > Shadow's Edge - > Wrathful Gladiator's Claymore - > Oxheart - > Ramaladni's Blade of Culling - > Bloodfall - > Hersir's Greatspear - > Bryntroll, the Bone Arbitert

When do I swap from 2T9 to 4T10?
Using the BiS list with two 258 pieces of T9 (Helm and Gloves), generally it is a dps gain to swap to using the four piece with at one 264 T10 (with the other three 251) in those slots. Using two 245 T9 (Helm and Gloves), it is a dps gain to swap to T10 using four 251 pieces.

How does the ICC raid damage buff affect paladin damage (referred to as Strength of Wrynn for the Alliance and Hellscream’s Warsong for the Horde)?
If affects all damage you deal by 5% to 30% depending on the current buff in ICC (25% in July). It works just like Sanctified Retribution. Rawr has an option to add the various levels of this buff.

What is the best libram?
Libram of the Three Truths is better than Libram of Valiance on a single target if attacking more than 45 seconds and Three Truths is always better for AoE. However due to badge costs combined with a small upgrade, you should not pick it up until you have your 4 piece Tier set first.

Where are the Alliance Lists utilizing the 1% Hit Aura?
If you normally have Heroic Presence, swap out Polar Bear Claw Bracers for [Taiga Bindings] or another bracer without hit rating. Alternatively, you could swap out the neck slot to one without hit rating (such as [Collar of Haughty Disdain]). Note that you may not see any dps increase swapping out your hit items even past the cap (if you do not have a similar item level replacement).

Should I use leather gear since in 4.0 it will be weaker than plate gear?
If you are able to get the good leather, I would go ahead and use it. It is a good idea to pickup strength-based items to help your leveling slightly.

What is happening to ArP in 4.0?
Armor Penetration is changing to Haste or Crit, depending if the item had Crit, then it gets Haste, otherwise you get Crit.

Will I be able to keep my ICC items at level 85?
As you are leveling in Cataclysm you likely will want some of the new Mastery items. It may be the most powerful stat (until a certain point) in 4.0. Other than the Mastery items, your gear with enchants and gems likely means you should keep it until level 83-84.

[top]Assumptions used in Rawr

Professions: Blacksmith/Jewelcrafting (Engineering is slightly higher dps than either of these most of the time, but Rawr does not model it correctly resulting in lower dps in Rawr so it is ignored).
Glyphs: Judgement, Seal of Vengeance, and Consecration
Enchants
Head: [Arcanum of Torment] Shoulders: [Greater Inscription of the Axe]
Chest: +10 stats Back: +22 Agility Wrist: +50 AP Gloves: +44 AP
Legs: [Icescale Leg Armor] Boots: Icewalker or Greater Assault depending on the hit rating of the set.
Weapon Enchant: [Formula: Enchant Weapon - Berserking]
Gems
Normally use [Bold Cardinal Ruby], one [Nightmare Tear], and [Inscribed Ametrine] in yellow sockets that activate a 4 strength bonus (check Rawr for other bonuses to see if it is worth it).
Buffs
These lists use all buffs except for Focus Magic and Heroic Presence; for consumables use Flask of Endless Rage and +40 Strength Food.
Options used:
Fight Length - 60 minutes Mob Type - Undead Seal: Vengeance Target Level: 83
Below 20% time - 18% Stacked Trinket Reset: 1 Target: 1 Time in front of the mob: 0
Consecrate Effectiveness: 100% Bloodlust is checked Target Switches/HoR effectiveness: 0
Priority List:
Use the FCFS priority of Judgement>Crusader Strike>Divine Storm>Hammer of Wrath>Consecration>Exorcism>Holy Wrath (if a valid target). Use the mod clcret to help you follow this priority.
Addressing server/human lag:
Delay and Wait are set to 0.2 seconds to simulate in-game lag and keypress lag (SnowfallKeyPress and G15/Autohotkey will help with these delays).

I would like like to mention that with the stat changes coming for cataclysm (such as removing ap from AGI-based items) it would probably be in your best long-term interest to avoid AGI items wherever possible. While for progression they may be nice, setting up a BIS set using AGI will mean you get very little effective time out of it, since precedence shows that the major expansion mechanics are implemented a few weeks before cataclysm goes live.

Just something to keep in mind.

That being said, excellent work so far. I'm happy to see 5pc T10 up there, it's a very well itemized set and that's what I was expecting to see.

I modeled Bryntroll as a 15% chance on meleehit to do 2230 shadow damage (I added that manually). I also added a few 4 strength socket bonuses while using Inscribed gems. I also added 200 strength to Shadowmourne, to somewhat account for the buff it gives. Also, I required the sets to have at least 5% expertise when using Seal of Command, so the set loses a few dps on single target bosses by having some extra expertise.

Whispering Fanged Skull I didn't know how to model the attack power proc (what % chance is it)? Assuming it was 35% chance to proc with 45s ICD, it would be slightly better than Death's Choice (245). I will change that item.

Also the new FCFS rotation in Rawr 2.3.2 was acting strangely, I am not sure which rotation it is using (I added a few rotations there and it didn't change the dps).

I agree that agility based items aren't that great to use looking at the long-term 4.0 changes, but that is maybe a year from now and I know there is someone out there that wants to know the absolute best items.

The other somewhat interesting finding is that 2P 258 T9 / 2P 277 T10 is only barely below full 4P 277 BiS by ~100 DPS. Something to keep in mind as you start upgrading and shifting set bonuses.

The T10 libram isn't modeled in Rawr so it isn't on the lists. The hidden SoV swings that can proc Byrntroll doesn't affect any librams.

The T10 libram would show up best in Rawr once it is in there. However the T9 libram can be considered superior due to its lack of any ramp up time. Which you choose is largely a matter of choice and specific encounter.

Which pieces of each is this utilising might i ask?

I figured as much. And true, it doesn't affect librams - brain fart on my part.

I wouldn't really think the T9 libram would get much use at all once we've upgraded to the T10 one. There really isn't a fight where we're on a single target for less than 45 seconds, except for maybe Gunship if you're assigned to kill the mage.

I haven't seen any report of it from the PTR, and it likely never dropped given how buggy Putricide was during the PTR. However I wouldn't be surprised if this trinket is subject to some of the seemingly endless number of "hidden melee" strikes that we benefit from so its DPS may be underestimated at the moment.

As it stands though ilvl 264 Whispering Fanged Skull appears to be superior to ilvl 245 Death's Choice.

258 T9 shoulders and gloves, 277 T10 helm and legs. I've attached the Rawr file. From my tweaking thus far it looks like 2P T9 / 2P T10 is actually superior at the ilvl 264 level, but starts to lose out once you add ilvl 277 tier pieces into the mix.

frmorrison, a minor mistake for your BiS Heroic.zip, you forgot to put berserking on the weapon.

What about Deathbringers will? 600str/1200ap/ or 600haste proc for 30seconds by 90sec internal cooldown? I thought that would be one of the best trinkets

I'm not quite sure I understand the choice of trinkets. In rawr both Death's Choice still are rated at the top, while you have Whispering Fanged Skull listed.

My question is why is that?

Thanks in advance.