I have already spotted this error after Elimbras made his post and made a post re-doing the calculation.


The correct formula for predicting the overall HPS gain from Echo is (as posted above) HPS*T/[10*(T+6), where T is the time you spend casting heals in seconds. This is not 10% its actually slightly less than 10% and it approaches 10% asymptotically as T increases. The EoL HoT starts at HPS lower than this value and it increases slightly past this value to reach a maximum of 10% your HPS once a steady state is reached.

EoL had a bug before where the refreshed amount of the EoL hot was higher than it should be, as I explain in my post above I think this was due to the way HoT durations are refreshed indirectly by other spellcasts. In short they gain an extra tick.

However after testing it this morning, I think that this has been hot fixed and EoL now behaves correctly.

Did the amount absorbed by bubbles get stealth nerfed in the last few days? I noticed my bubbles in shat went down from about 10.5k to 8k on the spell when on me.

We've been carrying around the 30% ICC absorb buff havent we? That does add up to right at what your saying.. Perhaps they finally fixed that?

As for macro's, I'm a simplistic person, I usually don't care for the over complicated macro's, and here's one for saving space and time for Smite/Healing:
#showtooltip
/cast [target=mouseover,harm] Smite; [target=mouseover] Flash Heal
(although, I would be careful with that on Mind control fights, if you can't see who is who easily).

As for Disc though, has anyone noticed what seems to be an extra delay in the PW:S CD? I've been bubble spamming since early Ulduar, and never had a problem getting max shields out in combat. But for like LK last night (when the timing was more apparent), I couldn't seem to get out more than 11-12 shields per infest (normally like 18-20 depending on time). Not sure if its just server lag with the GCD cue system or what.

The range on clickable status of lightwell is more like 12-14yd's, but thats still a vast improvement over its old form (click radius is slightly smaller than the targetting circle for mass dispel, which is 15yd's).
As a guildy said the other day 'Nice, they fixed every possible problem with lightwell, and actually made it a great ability, to bad no one will still ever click it!'
Edit:
After double checking, I can now confirm that Blizz finally fixed that bug with absorb % buffs being carried over
Previously absorb bonuses were being applied to the priest (?), and were not being removed when exiting the instance, or dying (only server resets were removing it, it seems).
PW:S didn't recieve a nerf, they are just that low effectiveness now

Havoc, I definitely agree that your explanation about tick timings. The behaviour you describe is definitely the one for renew and shadowpriest dots, so that's likely it is also the case for the mastery hot. That was the first model I had in mind for checking. We might still need to check whether haste has an effect of the tick frequency, but I don't expect it (that would be double-dipping haste, and Blizzard don't like stats having double-dipping effect).

Now, I'm not convinced about you explanation for the extra tick size. We speak roughly of the same thing (I do not deduce one tick, you deduce and add it), but for one point, I don't see clearly your algorithm as described. And mostly, I'm pretty sure that this effect is not deterministic. At least on the one experience I made, it seems that the last tick before a heal was not always preserverd. It might get deduced, or might not. I'm not able to tell anything more precise at the moment, because I don't have the precise timing (and no time to really investigate the issue), but it seems the effect is either random, or at least depending on some other variables.

Metapseudo, thanks for the log. I'm not sure I don't make any mistake in interpreting your column (and the precise "order" of the events heal / ticks), and I would be glad to get more details about it.

Am I the only one that sees absolutely no use of SoL in current content?

In current content it really depends on the fight. For example it would be great for healing Saurfang where few players take damage at a time that is minimal. You could cast heal to keep the raid and melee up, keep renew on the tank, and when the SoL procs you can pop a free Flash Heal on tank. This way your Echo mastery has the best effect on tank and renew will help keep the tank up like heal should.

SOL is just bad. Lets say your casting 30 heals a minute because you have lots of haste and nothing better to do. On average you will get 1.8 procs per minute but becasuse of latency and the spell queue you will actually see about 1.5 ppm. This is the absolute possible best case and requires healing in a manner totally antithetical to the design of current fights. Even improved death is better than this in my opinion. Edit doing this with a competent raid on Saurfang takes about 3 minutes so you will get just over 4 procs for the entire fight.

It seems like a Holy Priest spamming renew will spend a lot more mana for similar throughput to a resto druid. Maybe I am doing something wrong, but I was running out of mana in 2-3 minutes in a raid with a resto druid who probably could have gone for about 10. I don't even think the druid was using innervate. Anyone else notice this?

Also, the tooltip for the PoH chakra ground targeted heal says that the ability heals for about 4-500 every two seconds. If this is true, then it's about as good as an additional healing stream totem. Does the healing scale with spellpower?

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I've noted a curious thing regarding shields. On Wed when the patch went live I spent the evening checking everything up. And I've calculated the formula for shield absorbs at 80:

PWS Absorb=(4,547+0,5434*SPD)*1,15*(1+Mastery in %),
1,15 from Improved PWS (10%) and T10х4 Set Bonus (5%)

I used the amount of absorb stated in the tooltip when I was outside ICC for the regression.
I have no idea whether the ICC buff was working or not since we had no raids on Wed.

I've checked it up today (Sun) and noted that the formula has changed:
PWS Absorb=(3,497+0,4181*SPD)*1,15*(1+Mastery in %),
1,15 from Improved PWS (10%) and T10х4 Set Bonus (5%)

I.e. both the base heal and the spd coefficient were reduced.. by 30%.
The ICC buff does work and when inside ICC I have directly the same amount of absorb as I did on Wed being outside.

Was it a stels-fix or something?

Well the Sanctuary effect is raidwide healing, which makes it about 5 times better than Healing Stream Totem. In my testing, it looked like it was healing a little over 500 damage every second, and it also procced the mastery bonus. I think that suggests weak scaling from all stats. I have close to 50% haste, which could account for the faster tick rate.

It's an extremely strong ability, especially if the whole raid is grouped up for some reason. But even if you're just putting it on the melee pile, it's a great spell to cast.

This can also be used through grid/clique as well to avoid having to switch targets and always make sure you smite the mob the tank is targeting. Just create this as a custom macro in clique and then bind a click to it. Then in grid...just use the click on the tank. This might help in not accidentally smiting a CC'd mob in Cata as well.

/assist [target=mouseover]
/cast Smite