Here's the TL;DR:

- DoTs are much more of our damage.
- Missing a DoT refresh has a much lower on DPS relative to missing a nuke.
- Therefore, hit is less valuable than it would be when nukes were a larger portion of damage.

I sometimes use Dispersion right after hymm of hope however I use Dark Archangel and Shadowfiend on cooldown which keeps my mana up on their own. If my normal rotation which consists of SF and Arch doesn't keep my mana up(like on fights with adds where I'm spamming MS+MS+MS+MB) Then I will use Hymm of Hope+Dispersion right after which will get me to about 75%+ mana.




On that note, does anyone suggest anything for mana on encounters such as Ripsnarl on heroic Deadmines? As I said earlier, when the adds spawn, to get them down quick I will usually do my MS+MB spam. Since other DPS help with adds as well I will usually get 2 MS off at the most before the add is dead however that plus rolling DoTs on the boss seems to make my mana pool deplete quite frequently. I just ran earlier today and I went OOM 2or3 times on that fight even when using SF and Arch as much as possible to gain mana back not even as a normal DPS rotation. Will things such as removing MB from rotation suffice?

Forgive me if I am incorrect, but I was under the impression that the Omnotron golems, once shielded during the second half of their "active" phase, took no damage. Will dots cast before the bubble tick for damage?

Also, I notice Hoho claims 17% self-buffed haste at "three epics and the rest blues, with many pieces lacking haste rating," but I'm in 10 out of 17 359 epics at the moment, gearing and forging for haste wherever I can, and I have 14.41% self-buffed and nowhere close to the 25% in raid he mentions. Is there someone America-side (whom I can therefore armory) with the level of haste he claims? Am I missing something?

Edit: On the hit cap issue - I ran a series of six-minute dps tests, three with the hit cap, three without, and found that although my non-hitcapped set (8.50% hit rating) had an overall "stat value" of about 2.5% greater than my hitcapped set (using the stat weights at Priest_Shadow_T11_372 - simulationcraft - Project Hosting on Google Code), my mean dps suffered a 1.1% drop when not hit-capped. Obviously a dummy is not a raid, and I am not in 372 T11 gear, but I'm concerned on two fronts. The first is that my non-hitcapped dps will suffer more in a raid because my "DoT-missed-recast" reaction time will be slower than on a dummy. The second is that my non-hitcapped dps will again suffer due to mana issues: greater pre-execute SWD and more time spent Dispersed on bosses that are already mana-tight. Has anyone conducted such tests on raid bosses? The points regarding the reduction of value for hit rating are sound but I am unsure if those stat weights are actually manifesting themselves in raid fights.

Are you including the 5% haste from Mind Quickening - Spell - World of Warcraft and the 3% haste from Dark Intent - Spell - World of Warcraft ?

Right, I meant for the 25% raid buffed not self buffed. :p

It's just the difference in gearing: Hohounknown @ Al'Akir - Game - World of Warcraft

As you see I have 2172/16.96% haste. I had a bit over 17% before I got the epic belt. I have haste without reforging on every single item except one trinket, belt, chest and wrists. Everything else has haste by default. On all but trinket I've reforged some stats to haste.

I'm just wondering if any analysis has been done on the following:

1. How bad is it to refresh a DoT early... the reason I ask is that I unfortunetly have to put up with Aussie ping and the likilhood of me landing a DoT correctly is small. Am I better to err on the side of refreshing early or late?

2. Are there temp buffs that can be locked into rolling SW:P or is everything updated now?

3. What sort of timeframe is mind spike spam > proper dot rotation dps? This is to get an idea of when to nuke an off target or go with rolling dot cleave.

4. I don't notice any sort of stacking crit buff during mind spike spam for MB. So is there a time limit on when the next MB will get the stacking 30% crit... I'm not sure how it works if there is no buff for it. The only buff I see is mind melt which lasts about 6 sec or so.

Three Quick question it seemed to get lost in the thread, but isn't Mind Flay now a Channeled dot? If so doesn't that mean it benefits from Empowered Shadows, and are we still using the haste table bellow for it's number of ticks?



Mind Flay

Haste	Ticks
0.0%	3
33.3%	4
66.7%	5
100.0%	6

If we are, why bother stacking haste past 18.75% for the 10th DP tick? We could probably get more DPS out of stacking critical strike after this point to on chance get more Shadow Fiend, (helps manage mana).

Hey, I now have 2k haste, but only 700crit. So I wonder if I should reforge some of my haste into crit as I kinda go oom because I dont get my shadowfiend off CD before im oom (without using Hymn of Hope and Dispersion).

Haste's effects aren't limited to stepping plateaus now that the dots don't reset their ticks when refreshed. Every bit of haste reduces the time between ticks.

Has anyone tried to theory craft how good tier 10 4 piece set effect is at 85? I just ran simulation craft twice, First time, with tier 10. It reported 15531 dps. Second time I ran it without tier 10, but with 4 346 item level blue items with those slots. It said 14721 dps. I would gladly upload the logs, I just don't know how to do it (simulation craft has them saved as html pages). Any thoughts?