I’m fairly new to the raid scene as a holy priest this expansion. Although PoH was nerfed, during the heavy AE dmg phases (magmaw, chimaeron, maloriak, etc) should we have a hasted PoH ready to go for that first wave of damage and then continue spamming PoH during the heavy AE dmg? Should I always keep CoH on cd during the AE dmg or would I see higher HPS by continuing to cast PoH? I generally always keep PoM and CoH on cooldown. Our entire raid group is pretty new, but we usually run our healing as Hpal/Hpal/Hpriest(me). I really am stretched sometimes being the only raid healer, prior to the AE dmg I get into sanctuary and just spam PoH pretty much. I don’t find a ton of benefit using the hw ability though being that we’re just a 10 man.

In general I'd suggest to do it before setting up the first lightwell prefight. In addition to that you could get the PvP Spellpower-on-use trinket to further buff Lightwell and switch back to your normal infight trinket right afterwards and before the fight starts.

In terms of HC encounters my knowlegde unfortunately is quite limited. On Halfus HC I loved the additional mana in the extreme burst-phase in the beginning, on Chimaeron it's basically useless mana-wise though still powerful in terms of buffing Lightwell.

//Edit: Sorry - by "Healing Priest" I kind of assumed "Holy Priest". From a disc perspective (which I've been playing so far) I use a volcanic potion whenever I expect substential damage in the early phase of the fight - so far only Halfus HC.//

Proob - CoH has better HPM and better HPS than PoH so you should be keeping it on cooldown, and also keep PoM on cooldown too if the encounter is appropriate for it. PoH is still a very strong spell but it is obviously most efficient if you can let the glyph and your mastery tick so if you can break it up with other stuff that helps (though if you need maximum HPS - e.g. Chimaeron's feud - you're going to be keeping CoH on cooldown and spamming PoH).

Holy word: sanctuary is fairly poor. I haven't done the math on it but I tend not to use it much.

Chimaeron is a bit unusual because you only need to get people up to 10k, so if your PoH heals for that much then you probably won't end up using CoH much at all outside of feuds.

Also, do not be afraid to make your holydins do some raid healing in certain encounters. They're not great at it, but beacon allows them to continue to put some healing on the tank while contributing to raid healing, and there are many encounters (Magmaw, drakes, Atramedes, etc.) where the raid healing required is considerably more than the tank healing required.

I'd also like to see a comparison for:

[Fall of Mortality]
[Mandala of Stirring Patterns]
[Jar of Ancient Remedies]
[Vibrant Alchemist Stone]

It looks like [Fall of Mortality] has a 75 second cooldown so:

[Fall of Mortality] > [Core of Ripeness] > [Design: Figurine - Dream Owl] > [Tear of Blood]

Not really sure how all the rest fit into it.

Edit: Throwing the alchemist stone into the mix.

You could use a maco like
/cast [Modifier: Shift] Chakra
/cast Heal

etc.

So pressing Shift would activate Chakra and Heal while pressing the button without Shift would just activate the heal.

Even though it's technically a shaman based blog, I did find a recent post by Vixsin over @ Life In Group 5 and she created a number of really excellent spreadsheets that breakdown which trinket provides how much regen and it does include the recent Alchemist stone. The spreadsheet contains information that could easily be applied to other healers and it wasn't hard for me to glean how those numbers would affect me as a holy priest.

Surprisingly, the Jar was much lower on the totem pole (no pun intended) than I had thought it would be. It appears that Darkmoon Card: Tsunami is still a top contender for BiS and the Vibrant Alchemist Stone performs very well, too.

Take a gander and see if you can apply any of the information to yourself and your trinket situation.

That's because you can't really use Shaman theorycrafting on trinkets and broadly apply it to Priests.

The Jar will be better for Holy Priests because Holy Concentration gives us 80% conversion instead of the 50% everyone else gets. Also, I'd argue his/her list is flawed, since every 1 Spirit a Shaman gets is worth .4 Spirit to every other healer in the raid. In 25's, a single Spirit point for a Shaman is effectively worth ~4 Spirit.

That said, it's really no surprise the Jar isn't at the top of the list, it doesn't have Intellect. For almost all classes, no matter what their primary stat is, it tends to be 3 times better than other secondary stats.

P.S. The Jar is pretty much terrible for Disc, since Disc doesn't have Mana Tide and doesn't have Holy Concentration.

I have a few priests in my guild who are transitioning up into raiding spots, and are all sitting at the end of the blue gear level. With the comment above, should they not pick up the epics that are available with no spirit and reforge into spirit?

Examples:
[Amulet of Tender Breath] vs. [Yellow Smoke Pendant]
Or
[Flamebloom Gloves] vs. [Gloves of Purification]
Thanks

Hello Jefe,

If they're just starting to break into raid content, I feel they should have spirit on almost of their gear, until they feel comfortable enough to take a piece or two without any on it and then reforge that stat into something else (like more haste or mastery).

If the priests in question have access to either of those epics, both are not bad pieces. You would also want to make sure they're not neglecting any haste caps along the way. I know for holy, it's recommended to have at least 12.50% haste (fully raid buffed) to be considered raid ready and maybe a bit more for good measure.

If they only have access to the blue pieces, those are still strong items and could easily get them into raids. I was using a high level blue necklace from Earthen Ring, I believe and the gloves from Heroic Stonecore and I did fine with them, until I got epic pieces from raids.

Hope this helps.

A quick request for some confirmation.

So I'm a Disc healer in a very casual raiding guild. We've run about 5 raids so far. We've got a few Halfus kills and last night was our first Magmaw.

I was speced Disc and assigned to raid heal as I looked at the healing logs on world of logs and was concerned they were not reporting properly and wanted to double check with what others are finding out there.

The most healing I got per spell was from Prayer of Healing 25.6%. However, the next spell on the list was Divine Ageis at 19.3%. It seemed odd to me that it would account for that much of my healing especially since it was showing an average absorb of 3800.

Is this typical? or is something getting misreported here? Thank you in advacne for any insight you may have to offer.

This should be a link to the log: World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

What is the current base cost of PW:S? I'm unclear on where the hotfixes and tooltip changes have left us, and quick testing on live only shows that it's somewhere over 6k.