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Old 05/16/11, 5:45 PM   #226
serrif
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Originally Posted by whiteheal View Post
I do use pot buts it more the flat mana ones rather then the wait 10 secs but i try it out next time we go
For most of the fights in the game, by planning ahead, you will be able to find 10 seconds where you can use a Potion of Concentration. The important thing is to make sure that your other healers are aware of it. Using Cho'gall as an example, just after a worship on a tank damage phase (assuming that your raid broke the MCs quickly) is a time that you can spare 10 seconds of being down 1 healer.

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Old 05/18/11, 12:01 PM   #227
Eöwin
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average holy raid healing

Hey

I hope im not at the wrong place here!
I wanted to ask what the average overall healing is for a 6/33/2 holy priest..
I am the only priest healing in my guild and no1 can give me any advice at how im doing, this is very annoying!
Last sunday we did cho'gall and i couldnt get any more than 7.5k max 8k healing out of it. There was a paladin and a shaman healer with me and they were way higher on meter.
I dont know what to do! please help me

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Old 05/18/11, 12:14 PM   #228
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The important thing is to make sure that your other healers are aware of it.
I made a macro for this which announces in the healing chat channel that I'm using a Potion of Concentration and that someone should "cover me" for heals until it's finished or I choose to break it early (if things hit the fan while I'm concentrating). Some of our other healers caught on to this and now I believe it's pretty standard and not hard to make/do. I would give that a shot.

Regarding the above question, I'm not really sure how to help or what the problem is. I know I'm not in the business of tracking my HPS or numbers. I keep people alive. If you're coming here for advice solely because you want to top meters, I'm afraid you may be asking for the wrong reasons. If you're coming here because you want to improve your performance (provided it needs improvement) and to better assist your raid, then that's different.

Just sayin.'

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Old 05/18/11, 1:41 PM   #229
Eöwin
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Originally Posted by Oestrus View Post
If you're coming here for advice solely because you want to top meters, I'm afraid you may be asking for the wrong reasons. If you're coming here because you want to improve your performance (provided it needs improvement) and to better assist your raid, then that's different.

Just sayin.'
Im here all about that last part..I can come with raids because i keep people alive, but with progress raids our leaders tend to get other healers because the meters are what they look at...and when they look at that im not doing great (almost always on bottom) so thats why i ask what the average healing is, since there is no1 else in my guild that i can compare it to..and discuss improving my healing with

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Old 05/18/11, 2:43 PM   #230
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Fair enough. That's the prime reason to want to improve your performance, right there. The Armory profile is fine, but would you happen to have any logs you could include? That would probably provide a better picture of what they and you are doing and we could go from there.

Thanks!

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Old 05/23/11, 6:42 AM   #231
Tyrannon
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Borrowed Time

Do you use
Shield(borrowed time)->penance->greaterheal
Shield->Heal->Heal
or
Shield->greater Heal->Prayer of Healing

or anything like that only if you can have a Rupture procc out of it, or do you keep borrowed time rolling all the time shielding whenever it runs out?

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Old 05/23/11, 3:52 PM   #232
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Originally Posted by Tyrannon View Post
Do you use
Shield(borrowed time)->penance->greaterheal
Shield->Heal->Heal
or
Shield->greater Heal->Prayer of Healing

or anything like that only if you can have a Rupture procc out of it, or do you keep borrowed time rolling all the time shielding whenever it runs out?
For the sake of mana regen it's a good idea to PW:S whenever Rapture's cooldown is up. As for your list there, the only one that makes sense in the context of Borrowed Time is the first since Penance will receive the haste as well as Gheal. PW:S is not something you should just use at random, so a circumstance where you would use PW:S then follow with a normal Heal is either woeful underhealing and risky for the tank or simply unnecessary. Some people like to PW:S before PoH, but I've found that in most heroic situations where you would use PoH you don't want to wait the extra GCD just to haste the PoH, unless the PW:S is going on a necessary target like the add tank on Maloriak or such.

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Old 05/26/11, 8:34 PM   #233
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hi i want to improve my performance too , im always the last healer in healing done ( almost always sometimes second) in 10 man we're 3 healer resto druid hpala/shammy and me disc/holy priest i have logs from last night only from omnotron
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Old 05/26/11, 10:06 PM   #234
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Looking at your logs the only thing I can really see is to use CoH more, as long as there's people damaged its a high HPM HPS keypress, so use it near CD as long as people are damaged.

Could use some more PoM usage. Try to have it out on the Incineration Measure then cast it again once the 5 charges are expired.

You're pretty geared for 3 healing Omno normal. On normal fights where there's not a lot of damage going out, and some pretty geared healers, HPS numbers are going to go down.

Looking at your Heroic Magmaw logs, what is your role? Again, more CoH and PoM will help during the Spews. You can bounce all 5 charges of a PoM each spew. Looking at that 7min log, you're primarily Ghealing and such. Were you tank healing, or topping people off from the Spits? If you're tank healing you still can throw PoM and CoH out during/after each Spew to help out the raid healers. If you were raid healing, you need to PoH a lot more.

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Old 05/26/11, 11:59 PM   #235
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Originally Posted by UnholY_Prince View Post
Looking at your logs the only thing I can really see is to use CoH more, as long as there's people damaged its a high HPM HPS keypress, so use it near CD as long as people are damaged.

Could use some more PoM usage. Try to have it out on the Incineration Measure then cast it again once the 5 charges are expired.

You're pretty geared for 3 healing Omno normal. On normal fights where there's not a lot of damage going out, and some pretty geared healers, HPS numbers are going to go down.

Looking at your Heroic Magmaw logs, what is your role? Again, more CoH and PoM will help during the Spews. You can bounce all 5 charges of a PoM each spew. Looking at that 7min log, you're primarily Ghealing and such. Were you tank healing, or topping people off from the Spits? If you're tank healing you still can throw PoM and CoH out during/after each Spew to help out the raid healers. If you were raid healing, you need to PoH a lot more.
in magmaw all stack in melee range , hunter kite adds and i heal hunter and off tank , so i pmuch spam bindingheal x2 y gheal the off tank

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Old 05/28/11, 1:58 PM   #236
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One thing that stood out to me is that there was no HW: Serenity usage. I would assume that if you are using BH x 2 and landing Greater Heals on the tank that you would probably be better off in Chakra: Serenity. I know I tend to use that stance when I'm healing the hunters and the DK tank on 25 man and I would imagine it's not too different here. HW: Serenity is the one HW that most priests don't have anything bad to say about and I'm certainly in that camp. It's great. It's cheap, it's instant and you can get a temporary crit buff that can help keep your tank or hunter up. I would be using that pretty close to off cooldown, if the damage is going out the way I remember it was.

Another thing we did on 25 man that may not work on 10, but I would still advocate trying is keeping a Lightwell near the hunter and they can use that as needed and even the tank can click on it if they are nearby. I remember that role being kind of hectic, having to keep them up and the Lightwell helped out a lot. I would try that, too.

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Old 06/06/11, 11:15 AM   #237
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Very quick question, are the smite/holy fire atonement heals affected by grace?

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Old 06/07/11, 2:03 AM   #238
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Originally Posted by AeonNightmare View Post
Very quick question, are the smite/holy fire atonement heals affected by grace?
Yes, they are.

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Old 06/07/11, 7:31 AM   #239
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Priest output in 10man BWD

Hello,

I just have a couple of questions if I may;

I have been struggling to output as much healing in certain fights as other classes in my raid, I'm currently a Holy spec'd priest - 6/32/3

Last no matter what I tried during some HC Maloriak attempts and then a normal kill (I recorded the fight on world of logs) I could not output close to the Druid and the Paladin. Whilst I realise I perhaps over did it with the flash healing and not enough Lightwell clicks and Prayer of mendings, I was wondering should I be able to beat these guys considering my gear is equivocal to the Paladin and Druid. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Your feedback would greatly be recieved.

Many thanks in advance.
Foolishstar/Xtal

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Old 06/07/11, 1:00 PM   #240
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Well the first thing I saw is that you're not timing your Maloriak tank heals properly. You have a 4 second window to land heals. You should be pre-casting a greater heal to land just after the channel ends, then you have time for another greater followed perhaps by flash heal depending on need. Another thing I notice is you're not using renew as much as you should. It's a great HPM and HPS spell. Other than that I don't see too much outside of lack of use of CoH.

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