Hey there,
i got a little question.
In SimC i want to create my "own" prority list, so like my own rotation.
I'm starting like this : prepot, vt, swp, dp, sf, berserking, mfx2, arch, mb, mf ...
But i dont even know how to make it.
Thanks in advice.

I've been trying to find a good balance between haste and mastery reforging for hard modes in DS. I was running with haste reforged spec but I find myself using very few spells that benefit from haste. (i.e renew which I don't use all the time, PoH, hymn of hope and divine hymn). I understand flash heal and greater heal also benefit from haste but they are normally on the bottom of my heals list. My concern really is CoH, holy word serenity, bubble and PoM. I raid on 10 mans, so I'm considering ignoring the 12.5% haste soft cap and just reforge mastery. What is the best combination?

Can anyone already downing hardmodes comment? Thank you.

What? ALL of your spells benefit from Haste.

Haste lowers the GCD on CoH, PW:S and PoM. It also increases the ticks of Lightwell. And considering the cd on PoM and CoH, you still spend the majority of your time not casting those spells.

Now, as to if Haste is better than Mastery, that's another topic. Clarifying however Haste affects all your spells.

While I'm not currently doing hard modes as of today, they certainly are on the agenda in the near future, so I would like to think I might be able to help you with your concerns.

For holy, I choose to look at Haste like this: We have two immediate breakpoints, with regards to receiving extra ticks from various spells. The first one is at 12.50% and the next one is at 37.50%. I would argue the second breakpoint is next to impossible to hit, unless you go out of your way to get that much Haste - or you get your hands on various items that can give you a sizable Haste proc (like Seal of the Seven Signs or Ti'tahk). If you have already hit the first one and you're nowhere near the second one, I would at least make sure to get enough Haste to lower your PoH, Heal, and Greater Heal down to 2s (fully buffed). Once you're at that point, if you know the 37.50% is still out of reach, I would then start to gear for Mastery.

Think of it like what's attainable and what isn't. If you don't have enough Haste to squeeze out those two extra ticks and your spells are already at the 2s mark, I don't see what the additional Haste would really do for you.

Good luck!

Without points in Darkness, and assuming you will be raid buffed 5% haste, how much haste would then be needed to get down to the 2sec cast time??

2.5s down to 2s means 25% effective haste. (2.5/1.25=2)
Provided you bring 5% from raid buff, this require 19% self haste (1.19*1.05=1.25)
19% haste is 2438 haste score (19*128=2438)

Hello everyone. I play as Disc MS, shadow offspec, but I don't have shadow gear set yet so I utilize my healing set for now. I've been trying to decide between reforiging my extra spirit (wich converts to about 9% extra hit rating) into haste/mastery in order to increase my dps output, but I'm worried I will be left with too little regen for healing (which is my main spec).

I feel comfortable atm with 3083 + Jaws of defeat unbuffed. If I do reforge to remove the extra hit rating cause by spirit when I go shadow, then my spirit would go down to 2200ish + jaws of defeat unbuffed.

I was wondering, as Discipline, what is a good minimum average spirit rating to have, counting trinket procs, buffs, etc for hard mode DS (which we are starting this week).

but still if you need 3k+ spirit with jaws as disc you're doing something terribly wrong. Maybe wrong spell selection according to the situation but will most probably be missing several rapture-procs (which is by far the most mana you get as disc over the course if a fight) and not using Shadowfiend with Hymn of hope.

I have to agree with grishaan. If my offspecc wasn't holy for some fights in DS (10 man), where I run oom fast even with some spirit left on my gear as disc, I'd reforge all my spirit into other secondary stats because it is just so little regen compared to the other regen tools a disc has. Going down to shadow hit cap levels of spirit should be fine with discs regen as long as you use rapture properly and make good use of your fiend and hoh.

Hi, just had a simple Question. I wanna play Holy Priest


Right now i'm at 12.36% Haste Unbuffed with 2/3 Points in Darkness. The Reason i ask is because im Confussed.

Should i stack up so 12.50% Solo Buffed or should i unstack it to become 12.50% Raidbuffed. If so i can build up more Mastery.

I did read the 4.1 Post for Holy Priest but its still unclear to me.


Well thanks and best regards, Emelenzia

I go Holy for this for BaS, I'll explain why shortly.

Make sure people with the Frostflake debuff are running into the Watery Entrenchment (her big orb) before being dispelled. Dispelling it in the Orb doesn't create a Frost Patch, and there'll be no danger of anyone getting slowed. Make sure you Shield each person who gets the Frostflake debuff immediately for Body and Soul, to get them into the Entrenchment quicker before the snare debuff stacks higher. If you have a Hunter make sure he's running Aspect of the Pack for Ice phase. The Watery Entrenchment DoT doesn't proc it, the only thing that does is getting hit by a falling Glacier, which should be avoided no matter what.

For Lightning have 2 people handle each side. After the Elemental dies, have everyone but the 4 people doing the linking run to the middle for AoE healing, but make sure they spread out somewhat to not chain the Lightning Blasts. Just a loose stack, 5 yards apart or so. Have 2 go left and 2 go right, preferably classes with high DR/HP like tanks, DKs, Rogues, Spriests etc. Have the Paladin cover one of the side's healing, taking care of the 2 people chaining on the left side for example. Meanwhile you cover the other 2 people on the right side. Druid takes care of the raid healing. For this phase I stay in Sanctuary for more ProMs, lay Sanctuary under the raid in the middle, then bomb Gheals and bounce ProM between my two raid healing targets. Don't be afraid to switch to Flash Heal near the end of the phase where damage is ramping up more, to stack Serendipity for quicker Gheals.

Use Hymn of Hope/Shadowfiend/Conc Potions during the Feedbacks for mana. Good luck!