Hello I'm back again, this time wondering what spec you other priests have found to be best for healing heroics, specifically the new 4.1 content? I'm thinking disc due to the sheer damage output in the fights, as well as my low (346) item level starting out. Thoughts?

It's really just straight up preference. There isn't a drastic difference between them for 5 man healing. I'd say Disc is probably easier from a gear perspective, so if your gear concerns you try Disc. N.B.: this isn't backed up by any math, just my experience with it.

Back in wolk, I was trying to convince a Druid that Grid was much better than Healbot. Instead of blindly stating Grid was better, I ran both. The main reason I cannot recommend healbot is that while it did inform you that had a debuff, it couldn't differentiate which one it was. This is not ideal when coordinating with other healers on assignments. I also hated the layout of healbot, the Grid party layouts are cleaner and can be much more customized. Healbot did handle multiple HOTs better though.

With the said Druid, I politely pointed out how can you fulfill your assignment on healing Volatile Ooze Adhesive targets when you don't know who has that debuff? (which was the reason we had entered this discussion on raid frames, his inability to keep his assigned targets up).

It's always better that the healing team has access to the same tools, to avoid conflicts in the raid frame displays. For example, Blizzard raid frames, and Grid display the party order differently. On Chimaeron, how can you assign one healer to the first slime target, the other to the second slime target when the healers cannot even determine the meaning of first and second?

My recommendation is that you learn to use grid (+ mouseover macros, clique), and you will never ever go back to anything else.

You can set up Healbot to monitor specific debuffs.

I've also tried grid, and I've never got satisfactory performance from it, Healbot has proven far easier and quicker to use for me. It's down to personal preferences and your choice of mouse.

Yes you need to download some addons to get grid to show everything you want, but when you do it really shows EVERYTHING you want. You have to look at the addons when they are at their top if you are going to measure the difference between them. Also saying that you have to look around for options alot to show debufs in grid is just not true. Its very easy to change where and how you want to show them. Personally i like Grid alot more since you can set it up in more ways. If you want to give grid a try, please do it with some addons and read up on it. You can even show all the hots you want and their timers if you give it some time to set it up.

Grid+<stuff>, Healbot, and Vuhdo all have exactly the same capabilities. They can be configured to look virtually identical as well. The only variation between them is how you go about performing configuration. Anyone who tells you that one is somehow better than the others is wrong. Let's not shit up the thread by starting a holy war over raidframes.

Hello, i´m a starting Raidpriest with Holy/Disc -Specs in a 10-man Normal Raid.

After a few Encounters i happen to feel kind of lost/irrelevant.

I´ve got two Problems:

1) Somehow i feel absolutely lost in what i should do, have to do and when to do something and in what spec. On the First Post the answer to that was given for BoT. I´m looking for exactely that for the other two Raidinstances.

Things nice to know: When is it ok, for me to blow mana, how to prepare for Events and how you solve these.


That actually helped me a lot. I did know the encounters, but hearing that sometimes trivial things made me a better Raidmember.


2) When I´m healing, i have to chose between healingoutput and manaefficiency but i can´t combine them.

If i am manaefficient, then my HPS drop to 8000 HPS (obviously not enough) and if i´m Healing what i actually need to, then i´m running out of mana in any Phase 3 of any Encounter, relying on my mates to heal the rest.
I absolutely don´t think thats a gear or raid issue but solely the way i´m healing. I think its wrong.

Could someone please give me a Spellrotation/Spellpriority list on how you chose what spell to use when healing in a given role.
Or give an example on how 30 Seconds of your healing looks like.
Roles i´m interested in are: Holy Tankhealing, Holy Raidhealing, Disc Tankhealing and Disc Raidhealing.


Here is my example:
Nefarian 10 man, my role is Onyxia Tankhealing.

I chose Holy for that. Spamming Heal(renew is rolling) with HW:Serenity keeps the tank at a slightly negative direction, so i have to mix in a Flash heal once in a while. When Nefarian big AoE is coming i heal myself and the tank up with Binding heal. Phase 2 starts with me having about 70% Mana, an going oom within phase 2.
But i heard, having 100% for phase 2 is the way to go. What am i doing wrong? Ok, it was my first time on Nefarian today, but thats "simple" Tankhealing, right?

For more detailed Information i can give you the Raid-Logs from yesterday and the one before:

BWD 1-5 + BOT 1-3: World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis
BoT Chogall + Nefwipes: World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

Thanks

@Oddbin
I found myself lacking throughput more than mana in recent heroics, so when i get a higher ilvl item, i go for it over keeping Spirit.

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Last night i had a lot of problems raid-healing as Discipline priest on Omnotron heroic.

Healing composition was me (Auruz disc priest), a Holy priest and a Paladin. Paladin was assigned to handling both tanks.

Basically raid healing felt very unstable, with people dying to random bursts even when the tactics were executed seemingly well. Towards the end i decided to sub myself for a resto Druid, which then led to a swift 1-shot. The 2k extra hps and i'm not sure what else he brought made the difference.

So i was wondering what i can do to improve my raid healing, outside of speccing Holy.

Logs: World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis (some Magmaw and then Omnotron).

At the moment i am Spirit - Mastery geared (~360haste, ~500 crit, rest Mastery). Most tries on this particular night were done in Archangel-less 31/8/2 spec.
When raidhealing i try to use Shields as much as mana allows, and PoHs when noone specifically needs to get saved immediately. Guilty of missing a lot of PoM cooldowns, though.

In fact, POH / COH / POM all have better hps than your single target heals. Hence, for raid healing, you should not have the choice between better hps and better hpm spells, provided that your POH can be fully efficient.

On your example, don't forget that there is a nice midway solution for tank healing. Greater Heal is significantly more hps than heal, but only slightly worse hpm. Symmetrically, it is significantly more hpm than flash heal, but only slightly worse hps (this is more complicated if you take serependity into account). Unless your tank requires that healing right-now-or-I'll-die, it is usually better to use greater heal than flash, when you can. And if you take damage, use binding heal twice on the tank, and after that a hasted cheap greater heal (thanks to serependity) on the tank.

Personally I do far prefer holy's toolkit for raid heals over disc, but I'm a bit old-fashioned that way. I know for Nefarian I heal the Nef tank (normal, not that pro yet) and go into P2 with about 85% mana. It becomes a breeze.

The the topic of Nef, a quick question someone here might know: how does Levitate work with the lava? We've got a fair few players, myself sometimes included, who die to the Pillar Boss and sink an otherwise smooth attempt. Would the damage break it first, or would they actually float up?

Levitate doesn't work, the easiest way to avoid the pillar boss is to wait on the floor until the lava is over your head and then just hold spacebar to swim up and you'll swim to the top and a 2nd press of spacebar will make you jump onto the pillar. (Note this probably isn't the best way to do it if you're doing HMs b/c of cinders and you'd be wanting to get on the pillar asap to get a few heals and then jump off so your magma stacks don't get retardedly high)