This post now automatically updates to reflect the latest results at simulationcraft.org. Click on the charts below for details and scale factors:

Shadow DPS
Patchwerk:


Light Movement: "raid_events+=/movement,players_only=1,first=53,cooldown=85,duration=7,last=360"


Heavy Movement: "raid_events+=/movement,players_only=1,first=10,cooldown=10,duration=4"


Note that these numbers assume a 1% proc chance on the DTR and Dark Intent has been enabled for all profiles. The 2dot profiles are pseudo double-dotting.

Healing


Note that "DPS" here is actually HPS.

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Could you add your healing priest values, too?

Interesting scale factors. On light movement fights (which most are), single target nuke fights it seems Crit>Mastery>Haste. On multidot fights it seems the scale factors reflect what we're used to, Haste>Mastery>Crit.

On heavy movement fights it seems Haste>Crit>Mastery. I'm assuming this is because Empowered Shadows uptime is less.

Crit was being valued higher than Haste and Mastery because the Priests were running into mana issues and crit reduces the cast time on Shadowfiend. I have tweaked the priority lists to have it cast Shadow Word: Death more if mana is low. Updated results will likely appear in a few hours.

I have added our Healing Priest results. I'm not the one who generates the Healing reports nor have I really had anything to do with the coding of our healing support but there are obviously some people interested in these results.

The specs with "_finite" at the end of the name have finite mana, the others have unlimited resources - they keep casting after hitting 0 mana. Effectively, this means that the "_finite" specs scale just like the "sustained" numbers you are used to seeing elsewhere (e.g., the healing priest spreadsheet), and the unlimited specs scale like the "burst" numbers. Priest_Disc_AE_T12N specifically is going "OOM" less than half way into the fight.

Running sims of PoH spam without the glyph is odd.

In your BiS SP items there are Fiery Quintessence 391ilvl and Rippling Flamewrath Drape 391ilvl, both are rep awards. And I didnt see heroic version of these items in vendors lists.
In wrist slot you put: Firesoul Wristguards 391ilvl - this is Valor Item so Heroic version of it is unavailable.

I think these items dont exist.

So SP BiS should be: Variable Pulse Lightning Capacitor (Ragnaros 397ilvl trinket), Wings of Flame (Alysrazor 391ilvl cloak) and Wristguards of Arrogant Doom (Majordomo 391ilvl wrists)

So I was looking at the "Tier 12 Normal" output today and decided to put together a character sheet with the gear listed in the gear section and a few things jumped out at me.

The biggest thing was the amount of spirit reforged in addition to the spirit/hit already on other gear which ended being 19.36% (and not the 17.22% listed on the sample) that lead me to believe something was amiss. Is this possibly an issue with the profiles using PTR information? Or am I simply miss reading the output?

Since CharDev hasn't been updated for the new tier, I created a profile on Wowhead to see what the values would be (which is where I noticed the large flux in hit). I am in the middle of doing that with each of the gear sets, but wanted to see if anyone else was noticing this discrepancy.

Wowhead profile editor has a bug. He is adding Base Spirit to hit too. But in game only Spirit from gear added to hit.
Handle it +)

In simulations on the current (420-1) build I notice a large discrepancy between the HPET value of penance from the sim and from in-game. It is much lower than what it should be. Instead of being comparable to the HPET of Greater Heal, as it appears to be in game, the sim is listing numbers much closer to that of Smite.

We had penance gaining more ticks with haste, which doesn't occur in game from the logs I checked. Fixing this increased it's HPET closer to Greater Heal.

Wouldn't that inflate the value of Penance, rather than decrease it? Unless perhaps it was gaining ticks instead of reducing the cast time, in which case that would make sense since my model did not have much haste.

Gaining/losing ticks doesn't affect the HPET at all, only the HPE. Penance HPET is the same after the fix as it was before. GH has always had higher HPET than Penance in Simulationcraft results, in part due to the slightly higher average crit chance thanks to Inner Focus.

In fact, as Penance has an instant "free" ticks, adding ticks (whilst keeping the same interval) decreases the HPET.

Trying to walk through Action Priority List I'm stuck with two terms. What's the meaning of logical condition 'miss_react' and what's the qualifier/postfix '.react' for?
Examples of use:
--- shadow_word_pain,if=(!ticking|dot.shadow_word_pain.remains<gcd+0.5)&miss_react
Recast/refresh when (dot is not on target or remaining uptime is shorter than GCD + .5) but what's miss_react?
--- volcanic_potion,if=buff.bloodlust.react|target.time_to_die<=40
It's Bloodlust/Heroism buffed or there's supposedly no longer to wait for a drink, but again, what is .react's usefulness?

*edit deleted - should have read my PMs first

Since Chardev has finaly been updated, i've been playing a around little with Simcraft.

By changing the reforging of the Items worn in the Priest_Shadow_T12H.simc Profile to i came up with this Profile (Chardev Link) wich simmed slightly better in singel target Patchwerk-Style fights (+18dps), and equally in 2dot fights.

By exchanging the Wand of the profile (Trail of Embers (H)) with Scorchvine Wand (H) and adjusting the reforging acordingly i created this Profile (Chardev Link) wich even simmed better in both singel target fights (+26dps) and 2dot fights (+5dps).

Both simulations used the Simcraft 420-2 comandline client and ran through 500.000 iterations using these aditional flags:
The results can be viewed here:
Results - Default Rotation
Results - 2Dot Rotation

You you look closely to your SimCraft output you will notice one strange number called >>ERROR<<. And if you know some basic mathematic you understand that your dps delta doesnt mean anything because your >>ERROR<< probably twice bigger.

Nothing personal.

And if you actually have a look at the error numbers ( 1.74 therefore delta dps error is 2.46 = 2 * sqrt ( (1.74 / 2 ) ^ 2 + ( 1.74 / 2 ) ^2 ), you could see that he can reject your hypothesis that dps delta = 0 with quite a high confidence ( 1-p = 0.00002 for delta dps = 5).

I never said that lol. I dont have so English knowledge to explain my mathematical point view.

I am a research and data junkie. I loved using SimulationCraft for evaluating gear and secondary stats on my shadow priest. Since SimulationCraft now supports healing for priests I decided to dive in full throttle to see if SimulationCraft could help me better understand my new profession - discipline raid healing.

If there are other priests who heal and use SimulationCraft, you may want to give this a look see. I intentionally wrote the action code so that all spells would be used and i intentionally focused the Inner Focus and Berserking to use Greater Heal. The examples at the top of this thread seem to just spam Greater Heal to see the maximum healing numbers.

Works to show you the heal amounts and crit percentages for each healing spell. Remeber to put your specific information at the first part of the script and the gear setup for your specific equipment, gems, and reforges. I included a talent and rotation for Archangel / Atonement healing and one without. Personally I have used both and feel the one without better fits my needs and allows me to have a couple of PVP talents for my pvp and arena team. Hopefully cut and paste will work for you.

First SimulationCraft script for No Archangel or Atonement

priest=Thanpriest_noAA_Focused_Will
origin="http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/baelgun/Thanpriest/advanced"
level=85
race=troll
role=heal
professions=Inscription=525/Tailoring=525
#
#==================================================================================
# TALENTS AND GLYPHS FOR NO ARCHANGEL / ATONEMENT healing technique
#
talents=http://www.wowhead.com/talent#priest-233001221013202311221033102000000000000000000000000000000000000
glyphs=/power_word_shield/penance/prayer_of_healing/fade/dispel_magic/prayer_of_mending
#==================================================================================
# PREFIGHT BUFFS AND ACTIONS
#
# Intellect Buffs (commented out)
#
# actions=flask,type=draconic_mind
# actions=food,type=seafood_magnifique_feast
#
# Spirit Buffs
#
actions=flask,type=flowing_water
actions=food,type=delicious_sagefish_tail
use_pre_potion=1
actions+=/volcanic_potion,if=!in_combat
actions+=/fortitude
actions+=/inner_fire
actions+=/snapshot_stats
#
#==================================================================================
# ACTION RULES TO SIMULATE DISCIPLINE HEALING WITH NO ARCHANGEL / ATONEMENT
#
# buffs on cooldown (order matters)
#
actions+=/berserking
actions+=/inner_focus,if=buff.berserking.down
actions+=/power_infusion,if=buff.berserking.down&buff.inner_focus.down
#
# remove this if Core of Ripeness is not equipped
#
actions+=/use_item,name=core_of_ripeness
#
# casting Devouring Plague if weakened soul and less than 2 seconds remaining on DoT
# (remove this if not using a trinket that procs on damage such as Darkmoon Card: Volcano or Theralion’s Mirror)
#
actions+=/devouring_plague,if=buff.weakened_soul.up&dot.devouring_plague.remains<2
#
# don’t believe Simulationcraft supports Power Word: Barrier at this time (commented out, but left in for reminder)
#
#actions+=/power_word_barrier
#
# mana regeneration actions (Power of Concentration potion not supported at this time and is commented out)
#
#actions+=/potion_of_concentration,if=mana_pct<=30
actions+=/mana_potion,if=mana_pct<=30
actions+=/shadow_fiend,if=mana_pct<=60
actions+=/hymn_of_hope,if=pet.shadow_fiend.active|mana_pct<60
#
# Greater Heal if Inner Focus or Power Infusion is available
#
actions+=/greater_heal,if=buff.inner_focus.up|buff.power_infusion.up
#
# Power Word: Shield and Penance when available and off cool down
#
actions+=/power_word_shield,if=buff.weakened_soul.down
actions+=/penance_heal
#
# healing spells that occur when Weakened Soul Debuff is active
# mana percentages are used to make sure each major spell is cast a few times during the course of the fight
#
actions+=/prayer_of_healing,if=buff.weakened_soul.up&mana_pct>=80
actions+=/prayer_of_mending,if=buff.weakened_soul.up&mana_pct<80&mana_pct>=20
actions+=/heal,if=buff.weakened_soul.up&mana_pct<20
#
# cast Renew if moving (primarily added for HelterSkelter simulations and to determine renew healing values)
#
actions+=/renew,moving=1
#
# Big Heals cast when not under weakened soul and other major heals are on cool down
# mana percentages are used to make sure each major spell is cast a few times during the course of the fight
#
actions+=/divine_hymn,if=mana_pct<50
actions+=/binding_heal,if=mana_pct<85&mana_pct>=55
actions+=/flash_heal,if=mana_pct<55&mana_pct>=25
actions+=/greater_heal,if=mana_pct<25&mana_pct>=15
actions+=/heal,if=mana_pct<15&mana_pct>=5
#
#==================================================================================
#
# gear setup
#
head=relentless_gladiators_mooncloth,type=cloth,ilevel=384,quality=epic,stats=1167arm or_371int_646sta_227mastery,gems=burning_shadowspirit_40int,reforge=mastery_spi,encha nt=60int_35crit
neck=nightweavers_amulet,ilevel=365,quality=epic,stats=201int_301sta_102haste_153mast ery,reforge=mastery_spishoulders=mercurial_shoulderwraps,type=cloth,ilevel=359,qualit y=epic,stats=938armor_233int_380sta_169haste_149spi,gems=40int_10haste,enchant=130int _25haste,reforge=haste_crit
shirt=antisepticsoaked_dressing,ilevel=1
chest=robes_of_the_cleansing_flame,type=cloth,ilevel=3578quality=epic,stats=1391armor _368int_611sta_243mastery_261spi,,gems=20int_20spi_20int_20crit_20int,reforge=mastery _crit,enchant=20all
waist=x_tron_duct_tape,type=cloth,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=704armor_233int_380st a_169spi_149crit,gems=40int_20int_20crit_10int
legs=mercurial_legwraps,type=cloth,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=1094armor_301int_512 sta_228spi_188mastery,gems=20int_20spi_40int_20spi,reforge=mastery_crit,enchant=95int _55spi
feet=einhorns_galoshes,type=cloth,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=860armor_233int_380st a_169haste_149mastery,reforge=haste_crit,gems=40int_10haste,enchant=35mastery
wrists=bracers_of_the_burningeye,type=cloth,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=547armor_19 0int_286sta_127spi_127haste,reforge=haste_crit,enchant=50int
hands=mercurial_handwraps,type=cloth,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=782armor_233int_38 0sta_169spi_149mastery,gems=20int_20spi_10int,reforge=mastery_crit,enchant=50mastery
finger1=twisted_band_of_flowers,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=190int_286sta_127spi_12 7mastery,reforge=mastery_crit
finger2=security_measure_alpha,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=190int_286sta_127spi_127 crit
trinket1=core_of_ripeness,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=321int,use=1926spi_20dur_120c d
trinket2=darkmoon_card_volcano,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=321mastery,reforge=maste ry_haste,equip=onspelldamage_1200+10fire_1600int_30%_12dur_45cd
#trinket2=theralions_mirror,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=321int,equip=onspellcast_19 26mastery_10%_20dur_100cd
back=flowing_flamewrath_cape,ilevel=378,quality=epic,stats=695armor_227int_341sta_160 spi_137mastery,reforge=mastery_crit,enchant=lightweave_embroidery
main_hand=chelleys_staff_of_dark_mending,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=341int_512sta_ 228spi_228mastery_1955sp,reforge=mastery_crit,enchant=heartsong,weapon=staff_2.40spee d_1196min_1795max
ranged=theresas_booklight,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=107int_161sta_72mastery_72hit ,reforge=hit_crit
#==================================================================================


SimulationCraft script for using Archangel and Atonement

priest=Thanpriest_Archangel_Atonement_Healing
origin="http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/baelgun/Thanpriest/advanced"
level=85
race=troll
role=heal
professions=Inscription=525/Tailoring=525
#
#==================================================================================== ========
# TALENTS AND GLYPHS FOR ARCHANGEL / ATONEMENT healing technique
#
talents=http://www.wowhead.com/talent#priest-230210221113202312021033102000000000000000000000000000000000000
glyphs=/power_word_shield/penance/prayer_of_healing/divine_accuracy/dispel_magic/prayer_of_mending
#==================================================================================
# PREFIGHT BUFFS AND ACTIONS
#
# Intellect Buffs (commented out)
#
# actions=flask,type=draconic_mind
# actions=food,type=seafood_magnifique_feast
#
# Spirit Buffs
#
actions=flask,type=flowing_water
actions=food,type=delicious_sagefish_tail
use_pre_potion=1
actions+=/volcanic_potion,if=!in_combat
actions+=/fortitude
actions+=/inner_fire
actions+=/snapshot_stats
#
#==================================================================================
# ACTION RULES TO SIMULATE DISCIPLINE HEALING WITH ARCHANGEL / ATONEMENT
#
# buffs on cooldown (order matters)
#
actions+=/berserking
actions+=/inner_focus,if=buff.berserking.down
actions+=/power_infusion,if=buff.berserking.down&buff.inner_focus.down
#
# remove this if Core of Ripeness is not equipped
#
actions+=/use_item,name=core_of_ripeness
#
# casting Devouring Plague if weakened soul and not in holy archangel and less than 2 seconds remaining on DoT
# (remove this if not using a trinket that procs on damage such as Darkmoon Card: Volcano or Theralion’s Mirror)
#
actions+=/devouring_plague,if=buff.weakened_soul.up&!buff.holy_archangel.up&dot.devouring_plagu e.remains<2
#
# don’t believe Simulationcraft supports Power Word: Barrier at this time (commented out, but left in for reminder)
#
#actions+=/power_word_barrier
#
# mana regeneration actions (Power of Concentration potion not supported at this time and is commented out)
#
#actions+=/potion_of_concentration,if=mana_pct<=30
actions+=/mana_potion,if=mana_pct<=30
actions+=/shadow_fiend,if=mana_pct<=60
actions+=/hymn_of_hope,if=pet.shadow_fiend.active|mana_pct<60
actions+=/archangel,if=buff.holy_evangelism.stack>=5
#
# Greater Heal if Inner Focus or Power Infusion is available
#
actions+=/greater_heal,if=buff.inner_focus.up|buff.power_infusion.up
#
# Power Word: Shield and Penance when available and off cool down
#
actions+=/power_word_shield,if=buff.weakened_soul.down
actions+=/penance_heal
#
# casting Smite if weakened soul and not in holy archangel for Evangelism stacks
#
actions+=/smite,if=buff.weakened_soul.up&!buff.holy_archangel.up&buff.holy_evangelism.stack<5
#
# healing spells that occur when Weakened Soul Debuff is active and not casting Smite
# mana percentages are used to make sure each major spell is cast a few times during the course of the fight
#
actions+=/prayer_of_healing,if=buff.weakened_soul.up&mana_pct>=80
actions+=/prayer_of_mending,if=buff.weakened_soul.up&mana_pct<80&mana_pct>=20
actions+=/heal,if=buff.weakened_soul.up&mana_pct<20
#
# cast Renew if moving (primarily added for HelterSkelter simulations and to determine renew healing values)
#
actions+=/renew,moving=1
#
# Big Heals cast when not under weakened soul and other major heals are on cool down
# mana percentages are used to make sure each major spell is cast a few times during the course of the fight
#
actions+=/divine_hymn,if=mana_pct<50
actions+=/binding_heal,if=mana_pct<85&mana_pct>=55
actions+=/flash_heal,if=mana_pct<55&mana_pct>=25
actions+=/greater_heal,if=mana_pct<25&mana_pct>=15
actions+=/heal,if=mana_pct<15&mana_pct>=5
#
#==================================================================================
#
# gear setup
#
head=crown_of_burning_waters,type=cloth,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=1016armor_281in t_512sta_228spi_168mastery,gems=burning_shadowspirit_20int_20crit_30spi,reforge=maste ry_crit,enchant=60int_35crit
neck=nightweavers_amulet,ilevel=365,quality=epic,stats=201int_301sta_102haste_153mast ery,reforge=haste_crit
shoulders=mercurial_shoulderwraps,type=cloth,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=938armor_2 33int_380sta_169haste_149spi,gems=40int_10haste,enchant=130int_25haste,reforge=haste_ crit
shirt=antisepticsoaked_dressing,ilevel=1
chest=robes_of_the_cleansing_flame,type=cloth,ilevel=3578quality=epic,stats=1391armor _368int_611sta_243mastery_261spi,,gems=20int_20spi_20int_20crit_20int,reforge=mastery _crit,enchant=20all
waist=x_tron_duct_tape,type=cloth,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=704armor_233int_380st a_169spi_149crit,gems=40int_20int_20crit_10int
legs=mercurial_legwraps,type=cloth,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=1094armor_301int_512 sta_228spi_188mastery,gems=20int_20spi_40int_20spi,reforge=mastery_crit,enchant=95int _55spi
feet=einhorns_galoshes,type=cloth,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=860armor_233int_380st a_169haste_149mastery,reforge=haste_crit,gems=40int_10haste,enchant=35mastery
wrists=bracers_of_the_burningeye,type=cloth,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=547armor_19 0int_286sta_127spi_127haste,reforge=haste_crit,enchant=50int
hands=mercurial_handwraps,type=cloth,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=782armor_233int_38 0sta_169spi_149mastery,gems=20int_20spi_10int,reforge=mastery_crit,enchant=50mastery
finger1=twisted_band_of_flowers,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=190int_286sta_127spi_12 7mastery,reforge=mastery_crit
finger2=security_measure_alpha,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=190int_286sta_127spi_127 crit
trinket1=core_of_ripeness,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=321int,use=1926spi_20dur_120c d
trinket2=darkmoon_card_volcano,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=321mastery,reforge=maste ry_haste,equip=onspelldamage_1200+10fire_1600int_30%_12dur_45cd
#trinket2=theralions_mirror,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=321int,equip=onspellcast_19 26mastery_10%_20dur_100cd
back=flowing_flamewrath_cape,ilevel=378,quality=epic,stats=695armor_227int_341sta_160 spi_137mastery,reforge=mastery_crit,enchant=lightweave_embroidery
main_hand=chelleys_staff_of_dark_mending,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=341int_512sta_ 228spi_228mastery_1955sp,reforge=mastery_crit,enchant=heartsong,weapon=staff_2.40spee d_1196min_1795max
ranged=theresas_booklight,ilevel=359,quality=epic,stats=107int_161sta_72mastery_72hit ,reforge=hit_crit
#==================================================================================