Because those abilities do not scale with spirit but only with intellect - he is trying to calculate the delta in mana regen, not the absolute mana regen. Spirit does offer other advantages though, since 90 ISR is very very high and a single innervate pretty much gives spirit the edge.

I think they fucked things up with intellect, paladins really risk becoming infinite like shadowpriests once gear reaches a certain level which will be very very very soon.

My fault ofc I just read it as the full effect was calculated in the regen.

There's another consideration you're missing. Due to the fairly hefty bonus on the card itself, it is very likely that unless you're pretty careful with your remaining gear that the stat chosen will be your highest stat (and thus benefit from the proc). Over time, we can assert the proc will likely be active 25% - 30% of the time.

The spellpower bonus is essentially meaningless - without even the ability to downrank, intermittant (and unpredictable) boosts in spellpower aren't all that useful for healers. The mana pool size benefit from the proc is zero. The Replenishment benefit is according to uptime. The Mana Tide benefit isn't strictly according to uptime, but since you have no real control over Mana Tide, it averages out to this. However, an Intellect boost can be paired with a Shadowfiend use, granting you +300 Int every time you use Shadowfiend (an additional 1980 mana per use, or 33 mp5 if you get the Int proc rather than the Spirit proc).

While I might agree on how haste doesn't seem to be worth to take as a raid holy (and that's presuming there are proper target healers in the raid group), to say that anything else than CoH is inefficient is, well, rather weak. Care to present us a wws-sheet of your healing, Johnsen?

Whatever it is that Blizz decides to do with CoH, I think it can't hurt to start practising healing using CoH as little as possible, and that requires using those "inefficient heals". Renew, PoM and PWS are all instant cast and with proper glyphs and talents anything but inefficient.

Only inefficient healers say their spells are inefficient.

Binding Heal was awesome in BC as it got patched very early. Right now it is the best hps and hpm spell we have (PoM and procs excluded).

I was a little surprised that the 6 second cooldown on CoH came with no changes to our other talents. I have points in Holy Reach, Divine Providence, and Mental Agility that now seem not as great.

Is this going to change anyone else's spec?

It's a big surprise that they didn't give us anything. It's actually hilarious that they gave some shadowbuffs which are plain out stupid and didn't compensate holy at all (no mana cost on VE must be biggest joke ever made in a patch note - great sense of humour, Blizz ).

As said earlier, it's all down to content from now on. That includes what spec to use (who don't spec for the encounter here?). If Ulduar is Chain Heal-heaven and Guardian Spirit hardly is useful, then of course we will lose our raidspots to Shamans. If Prayer of Healing is possible to utlize (imagine 7k dmg to the whole raid with a cast time every 10. seconds with some instagib ability right after if you're not at 100% - there you have holypriest stacking) and Guardian Spirit is "encounter breaking", then we still have our two or three spots in 25 man.

I already use prayer of healing in many situations, I even have it glyphed. 10-man Sarth + 3 drakes comes up as a very good example where I'm in a group with the DPSers. It gives me the time to heal the tanks too, especially with heroism. I don't know, but I still think haste is a superior stat for a priest, even with the CoH nerf.

I think this emphasizes the problem Blizzard sees. Circle of Healing shouldn't be our "bread n' butter" spell. And I don't see why it has to be. I haven't reached 80, but I was healing throughout BC. Yeah, the later content made CoH a staple, but then you're essentially saying "we press one button."

Blizzard is trying to get us back to using all of our spells. Sure, some spells are more/less efficient, but if you use them properly all of them can be effectively used.

The most hilarious part about these patch notes is that they actually buffed Glyph of Holy Light. I have no idea how much extra range it will receive now, but it still seems stupid to me.

All those mental agility builds look really good now

The senario I posted is perfectly plausible even now up to the 5 second mark. Two closely spaced hits of an AoE that can 2-shot a DPS, is something that has been encountered multiple times in TBC and similar senarios are already seen even in the current very early stage content.

The remaining 5 seconds are added for a very specific reason. To gauge what the maximum is. I take a senario that will push a shaman to his absolute limit and ask a simple question, can a priest heal this now? Can he heal it with a 6sec CD on CoH. I look at BOTH the 5 second mark, which is a senario that is relevant right now and at the 10 second mark, to see what happens to a priest in a senario that a shaman needs every ounce, including luck, crits and all of his spells to heal at least partly successfully.

This is a very very relevant question. Whether this damage is healed by 1 person or 300 in a real raid senario is completely irrelevant. What we want to know is how a single class does on its own. This is a crucial question.

The answer are:
1) The shaman can convingly heal up to the 5 second mark, which is what is relevant in today's environment. As expected if we take this to 10 seconds, we push him to his limit thus possibly resulting in failure.

2) Today's CoH priest can heal even the 10 second mark very convingly. That means that if he had to a CoH priest could deal with this damage alone. That clearly illustrates the problem with the current CoH. If there is damage that challenges the CoH priest the shaman has no hope in hell of coping. If the damage is healable by the shaman, for the priest it is trivial.

3) Holy with nerfed CoH, cannot heal even the 5 second mark, which is a situation that is very relevant today and which the shaman can deal with convincingly. At the 10 second mark, where the shaman has at least some chance of partial success, the CoH priest has none.

4) Even if he is limited to using only average of 1 CoH every 6 seconds, the holy priest would be able to heal at least the 5 second mark successfully, provided he was able to use 2xCoH in quick succession at the begining of the sequence.

5) A paladin using single target heals is able to do more than a CoH priest with the 6 second cooldown can at the 5 second mark and even though he fails to heal the senario he is able to maintain higher HPS than both the shaman and the priest.

6) A druid can also convingly heal the 5 second mark with just WG. At the 10 second mark, he is better than the paladin and priest, but slightly worse the the shaman.

This is meant to illustrate a few basic things.

a) A holy priest cannot deal with aoe damage that pushes a shaman or druid to their respective limits.

b) A holy priest, unlike a paladin does not have the single target healing power to allow him to fill enough of this gap with single target heals

c) The cooldown on CoH is in itself an additional nerf.


The senario presented is valid and it accurately shows the full extent of the CoH nerf. That means without mitigating factors, namely a situation which allows effective use of PoM, PoH or Lightwell, priests are the bottom of the pile at dealing with aoe damage.

I will draw no further conclusions from this, but I will most certainly maintain that this is the truth. If anyone disagrees please post something more than "your example is not valid" to back it up.