Either can do it well.

Can someone confirm that they have indeed fixed the Shadow Priest hit cap error? I throw on 220-230 hit and I'm still not getting any misses on Recount. Though I do recall there being some sort of recount issue where it doesn't always register misses...? I'm sure they've fixed the hit issue, I'd just like some sort of confirmation from an all-knowing EJer.

About how much does a improved power word: shield absorb with 2400 spellpower as of the current patch?

I am probably going to end up getting a warning for this, but I am wondering why our raids ShPriest is not performing quite as well as we hoped his gear would allow.

This is our Sarth3 from last night. It might just be this fight in particular.. but he seems to not perform all that well on any standing boss. Is he using the wrong abilities or not using any of the right ones? Thanks in advance

http://wowwebstats.com/3zkid5uvj61ru

From just a glance at WWS: Dot uptime is bad, ideally all dots should be up 100% of the time. Both DP and VT compare very badly to his SW:P dot ticks.

I was doing some target dummy practice, and it appears that using quartz with mind flay is functioning properly. When I cast within the red "latency" area of the bar, I'm successfully getting 3 ticks. Is this a change from the earlier, bugged, MF, or was the "clipping" issue about trying to cut the spell off at 2/3 ticks and getting 1/3?

I'll echo what someone said above. With pestilence, DP should be a much higher percentage of his dmg, given the adds on that fight.

Some of his itemization is just strange too. Why the level 70 trinket? Why health on the chestpiece? Why no helm enchant? But yeah, even with those odd choices, his dps is way lower than it should be for his gear level.

Do holy priests still find themselves using greater heal? Accounting for heal sniping (or helping, however you want to look at it) on either the raid or tank does it still make sense to use? The WOTLK version of flash heal, with hps and hpm getting closer to greater heal, and all of our abilities which proc on crit are making me seriously reconsider my beloved greater heal.

If not using greater heal, we are wasting at least 8 talent points (Divine Fury and Improved Healing) on talents which solely concern greater heal for us. The sad thing is putting these points elsewhere doesn't really get us anything groundbreaking, when I tried to come up with a spec omitting them. If I truly decide to never use greater heal, though, anything is better than wasting 8 talent points.

This has been covered endlessly in the healing thread, but the answer is in general is that GH is no longer the staple that it was in BC for all the reasons you said before. I pretty much only cast it to the exclusion of Flash Heal on Patchwerk, or if I want an excuse to look away from the screen for 3 seconds. Greater Heal is still better HPM and HPS than a glyphed flash, but they have an equal chance to proc Clearcasting or SoL, and flash heal is less likely to get sniped or overheal. You still want to take Divine Fury for those cases, and because when you get an HC proc and you don't need to binding heal, greater heal is still the "right spell" to cast. I personally consider Improved Healing a filler talent; I happen to have it in my build right now, but sometimes when I respec between pvp and my holy build I'll put the points in renew or spell warding, depending on my mood.

And just a tip if you're new to these forums, but don't mention what things make you "sad". No one cares and it comes across as whiny.

What on Earth? I will assume English is not your first language if you find my post "whiny". I never said anything made me "sad". You can replace my use of sad with unfortunate, or is finding things unfortunate prohibited on EJ as well, in your mind?

No, 18% haste = cast time divided by 1.18, not cast time multiplied by 0.82, otherwise when you reached 100% haste all of your cast times would be zero. With 18% haste, 2.5 seconds would become 2.12 seconds.

I note that 2.5 divided by 1.1625 (for your gear haste) and then divided by 1.05 for Enlightenment gives 2.0481, which would round to 2.05 on the tooltip.

I don't often get a chance to use GH in 25 man raids outside of Patchwerk or a BL (which gives it about a 1.5 cast time) on a healing intensive fight (I was using it on EoE 25 man during the BL to great effect). My guild is moving on to Sarth with Drakes, and I think I'll be using it quite a bit there if I end up on tank heals, which is a distinct possibility. I use it in Heroics all the time, and I still run them for the reaction time and processing practice as well as the achievements. I also use it when I'm stuck in ten mans with weak healers. I have been moved to a 10 man Naxx group filled with newer raiders, so I end up two healing with someone who isn't that competent. I use it a lot in that sort of circumstance, it was something around 22% of my healing done during a two healer Naxx, because I needed its throughput.

It is still mostly a tank healing spell, in high damage/low amount of healers situations. Making a build based around not taking GH talents just for raid healing is a possibility, but I think it's gimping yourself, especially as there really isn't anything good to take instead. Basically, you aren't going to use it much unless you are bringing a smaller amount of healers than normal, or unless you are on pure tank heals close to by yourself, or you are making up for someone else's poor play, like a holy paladin who never uses Holy Shock or Bacon.

[e] I also think judgments based around its efficacy in the current content are premature, as I can close to solo heal Naxx.10. If healing scenarios I've heard of in Sarth +3D attempts are any indication of how Ulduar may be healing wise, and with the new Serendipity change, I think we will start using GH more.

It came to me today that at some gear level it could be beneficial to have an opener weapon set which stacks crit for the initial application of SWP. After the application one would swap weapons for your normal weapon set with (hopefully) higher spellpower. Right now the best I can come up with would be having [Damnation] enchanted with Accuracy (25 crit/hit) and [Rod of the Fallen Monarch] for a total of 143 crit, which is 76 more crit rating than the current BiS items [Torch of Holy Fire], [Accursed Spine], and [Plague Igniter]. Has anyone experimented with this?

Wouldn't it make sense that the drop in spell power would drop the dot's tick damage, therefore negating the gain in crit? Of course, i haven't played shadow since BT, so I could be wrong.

EDIT: You are losing 130+ spell power for a slight increase in crit, like 1.75%, so that honestly would probably be a worse choice.

I guess that the whole idea is that SW:P has damage augmented by crit (see some talents in shadow tree), and is automatically refreshed. Therefore, it would not loose this crit bonus for the whole fight.

On the other hand, I read some posts saying that dots are "re-evaluated" when you gain or loose some AP/SP buff. I guess that this is due to the fact that lots of trinkets gives a temporary bonus of AP / SP on click, and people used them to initiate a high damage dot (or hot) and kept them for the whole fight.

Droods did it with lifebloom durint TBC, I made it as hunter with the poison of a scorpid at some points (using the beast within and all AP trinkets to initiate the stack). So they went to prevent this, but not the crit part (which is less common, and re-evaluating has a computation/ communication cost).

the point is that crit is not recalculated on refresh but spell power is. As soon as you weapon swap and cast a mind flay the swp will be ticking for your full spell power plus the bonus crit.

Wow, that is a sweet mechanic

So if this logic is factual, you should stack as much crit as you can on your weapons for the initial application, then switch to your regular high SP weapons?

Seems odd that one stat is remembered and the other is not, as there are also trinkets that can proc crit rating.

It's a pure guess, but the recalculation is reaction from Blizzard.
At the origin, nothing was recomputed, but there was no everlasting dot / hot
Dots/ hots that were re-applied just overwrite themselves.

With TBC, it cames to this for druids (lifebloom) and scorpid poison at least. I guess the reason of this was stacking.
Druids and hunters then used clickable AP/SP trinkets to use / abuse the mechanism. But crit had no interest for them : all the power of the hot/dot was determined by AP/SP.

Then Blizzard corrected the mechanism, recomputing just AP/SP to minimize overhead.

Crit scaling of buffs is new in 3.0.

Anyone know if Holy DPS is any good?

If so where can I find info on how to gear and spec? Thanks

For farming? it's fine. For raiding it's terrible.

im looking for a good mana friendly build to heal as a holy priest in heroics/raids anyone have any suggestions that arent completely gear based u can armory Mirishka on kargath server to see her gear if that would help w/ the ideas