• constantius

Ideal amounts of spellpower for discipline is basically "as much as you can get". I run 2700 raid-buffed spellpower in my disc set, and I'd love to push that up +300 or +400. Spellpower and crit rock for Disc, in as much quantity as you can get.

As far as the metagems, I believe I did an analysis of them in the Compendium OP, but here's another one:
Insightful Earthsiege Diamond
21 intellect, raid-buffed = 23 (holy) or 26.5 (disc)
Proc = 600 mana, 15 sec ICD, 5% chance to proc. Total of ~ 75Mp5.

Ember Skyflare Diamond
2% intellect matches 26.5 intellect @ 1325 raid-buffed intellect pre-meta, or roughly BiS Ulduar gear across the board. I run ~ 1325 *with* meta right now, and I gem heavily for intellect. Easier to get to this point if you have [Pandora's Plea] or similar, of course.
25 spellpower, flat. No scaling.

So you can match the static intellect with the 2% intellect fairly "trivially", assuming you have good Ulduar gear. However, there's no world where 25 spellpower > 75 Mp5, even for Disc. If you find you absolutely 100% never run out of mana, then by all means try it out. Otherwise, IED is the best metagem, hands down.

Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house. - R.A. Heinlein

 

Alighieri

Question about spell pen, as I didn't find the answer by searching the forums: Is it possible to get a player to *negative* resist? Or is 0 the floor?

 

Tiane

No one answered this question for PvE so I'd like to hear it.

So far I've been told for healing Tailoring is one of the highest returns. Which other profession would be suggested alongside that (for pve purposes, not synergy)?

 

• constantius

If you're talking PvE healing, my personal feeling is Tailoring + JCing. For PvE dps, it's now Tailoring + JC/LW/Ench.

Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house. - R.A. Heinlein

 

ildon

Since around 1.4 or so, it has not been possible for players to drop a target to negative resists.

 

Ayreon

I have my PW:S bound to a mouse button and for some reason I am unable to cast it through a mouseover macro - the cursor just changes to a 'hand' as when you have no target selected. It works fine when bound to a key though. Does anyone know if there is any way to make it work with a mouse button as well?

 

• constantius

It works just fine for me on mouseover. Of course, I use the Logitech software to bind the extra mouse buttons to keybind combinations (for example, left-click on the middle mouse wheel is CTRL+ALT+NumPad9). I then map those keybinds in WoW using Clique, and they work flawlessly. You might want to try something like this and see if it solves your problem.

As well, you are trying to PWS someone in your raid, yes? If not, that explains your issue. :p

Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house. - R.A. Heinlein

 

Pythagoreant

Actually, my experience has been different. During our Vezax attempts/kills, Rapture has restored mana to me, but only 209 per shield, instead of the usual 650-700.

Here is a link to the WWS that demonstrates this.

I came here to ask if anyone knew A) whether Rapture is supposed to work, and B) why it only restores 30% of its original value.

This was extremely helpful when we fought Hard Mode Vezax on 10-man.

 

• constantius

Yes, Rapture is supposed to work. It's reduced for the same reason that ret paladin and enh shaman mana return mechanics are reduced. Why 30%? You'd have to ask a dev that.

Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house. - R.A. Heinlein

 

free2k

whats the best race for a priest?

 

Cleopatra

I am fairly new to disc and I seem to be running out of mana. I heard as disc it is hard to run oom. So without looking at my WWS or my Gear/spec(Because I feel like I am gearing/specing correctly) what is the best way to keep my mana up?

 

Nurru

If you don't provide us with any information how are we supposed to help you?

< Aislinana> Why would it be my job to sleep with vontre? Don't I have standards?

 

Bossi

If you spam PW:S on the raid and the shields don't get consumed at once you don't get the full rupture mana back, because it has an inner cd of 12s.

 

Cleopatra

Well I do not want you to take gear into account. I am just asking for basic spell rotations.



I assumed that when other peoples shields are consumed I do not get the mana return, they do? Basically my logic may be flawed and I would like to know should I keep bubble on myself for mana return? or will others also refund me mana?

 

mlanewal

Rapture

This is the main reason Disc is so efficient. But, without you saying anything about your spec or how you're playing, your question is really futile.

EDIT: I would also stop gemming Int/mp5 and pick up Int/Spirit gems if you're hellbent on using green gems.

 

wayth

There's no answer for that unless you give faction and whether you'll be healing or shadow.

 

Mandrus

I've been lurking on priest forums for a little while and decided to roll one. Dinged 80 gathered some items and I have one really important question. In TheDoctor's thread Discipline Healing Compendium v3.1 there are following stat weights:

1. Intelligence - 0.65
2. Spirit - 0.22
3. Haste Rating - 0.59
4. Crit Ratng - 0.48
5. Spell Power - 1.0
6. Mp5 - 0.67

Now my question is can I use following wowhead stat weighing: LINK

Thanks for anwsers in advance

 

Healixor

As a disc priest I don't know which head enchant to take:
[Arcanum of Blissful Mending] vs. [Arcanum of Burning Mysteries]

20*0.48=9.6
8*0.67=5.36
So the crit would be better for Disc. However with my current gear (buying T8.5 head), Rawr suggests 8 MP5.

 

Zaq

The only reason to take the mp5 chant in my opinion would be if you're constantly running out of mana.

"I have nothing personally invested in my own opinions. I'm just, like, inviting you to join me on the bandwagon of my own uncertainty." -Taylor Mali

 

• constantius

For Disc especially, and for Holy secondary, the spell/crit enchant is just flat-out superior. Mp5 is a horrible stat, and I'd be happy if I had precisely 0 on my gear.

Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house. - R.A. Heinlein

 

Mandrus

So I assume I should gear up taking SP > Crit > Int > Haste/MP5 > Spi in such order?

 

Sokaris84

Something like Spellpower and Crit > Int and haste > mp5 and spirit may be more accurate in my opinion.

 

Drakkyn

i read that haste is better than crit. so somewhere in the list should be haste > crit.

I can post the math, if needed.

 

Mandrus

That's my concern. I really have to choose alot between haste/crit gear. But I've also read that haste cap is 11% for disc. And crit well, it gives me bigger heals and creates shield from DA.

 

Sokaris84

We're talking about Disc. priests here Drakkyn, just to clear that up. So keep in mind that you already get 6% haste from talents, and of course Borrowed Time...

Anyways, here's a reasonable summary of it. Discipline Healing Compendium v3.1, though there are some question marks about his maths. The simple answer is as a Disc priest you will inevitably have enough haste on your gear without even trying. Somewhere between 200-250 will be plenty, so you are more than likely going to be better off concentrating on Spellpower and/or Crit.