Clafae

i have just recently joined a guild doing hardmodes and my question is for a disc priest is 4pc T8.5 better than going for the non tier gear? and if so whats best piece not to pick up im trying to decide between http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/...26_9806_12.jpg and http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/...t_9722_120.jpg as the non tier piece. ive done some napkin math but not sure how right it is using runed scarlet ruby in all blue sockets ignoring socket bonus and came up with the tier set including the proc being -28 stamina, +33 int,-91 spirit,+247 sp,-183 crit rating,+183 haste so my question is does the proc (since thats the sp thats over the other gear)+183 haste end up being better than the 183 crit? i know haste isnt the best for disc but also sp>crit and i gain some int but lose alot of spirit.

 

Bramme

I have no idea how Rawr calculates everything, but is it possible that, since I'm a bit low on haste (299 atm and people seem to consider 325ish HR better, apparently ideal for 'MB MF MF, repeat'), Rawr tells me I should use some more Haste?



I have another (potentially stupid, l2p) question. When in a group or raid, the leader will often yell "NUKE!". Ofcourse I know this means "Go all out" but it's my understanding that several classes can go "all out" on a target a little more, but by doing that, burn through their mana (for example, mages could start throwing Arcane Barrage like crazy, or w/e).

When I'm in my group, I try to optimize my rotation, going all out, all the time basically, however with mana consumption that can keep me going for a while.

Is there something like a shadowpriest NUKE rotation, that suddenly does a lot more burst dps (but burns through our mana like crazy) or should we just pop a haste potion and go for it?

 

ildon

The Not So Evil is the guy who's working on the Rawr spriest module currently. If he tells you it's overvaluing haste, it's overvaluing haste. Generally speaking, stick with runed scarlet rubies.

Priests don't really have DPS cooldowns. If it's time for a burst, for you that generally just means to use a wild magic potion, and possibly your shadow fiend if it isn't on cooldown.

 

Blindsight51

In terms of shadow fiend usage, try to pop it right before the heroism. Most groups announce heroism a second or two early so people can prep abilities for it, and shadow fiend is one that benefits greatly from it.

 

Eglan

Found that really useful on naxx-10, thanks Blindsight. -Playing with my alt shadowpriest-

I've got a quick question. Couldn't find the answer on the hot topics so,
Is DP affected by ebon plague?

 

glassdirigible

Assuming the tooltip isn't entirely wrong, yes. Crypt fever as well, although it's rare to see crypt fever without ebon plaguebringer.

 

o BaD JuJu o

I have been scrolling through the forums trying to find if anyone has asked this question.

I am a disc healer and have decent gear. Right now I have the tier 8.5 helm, Robes of the Umbral Brute, Tier 8 gloves and shoulders and the Leggings of Mortal Arrogance. I have about 64 conq badges after already buying the badge belt from the vendor. So here is my question, should I purchase the token for my tier 8.5 Robes to gain my 4 piece bonus for healing even though the current robes I have are best in slot or should I just save my badges to buy either tier 8.5 helm for shadow or Runed Orbs for tailoring either the Cord of White dawn or a pair of the slippers from Ulduar?

Thank You!

 

Bossi

4piece setbonus > any BiS item advantage (for disc at least)
Base your decission upon how quickly you'll get the 4 piece setbonus without badges.

 

Piøus

I was informed by a person I was in a Naxx25 with recently that hit rating was no longer required for Mind Control during the Razuvious encounter.
I generally keep up on priest class news pretty well and do not remember this ever popping up.
Anyone know for certain?

I have attempted a cursory search and found nothing that realistically points me in the right direction.

 

o BaD JuJu o

I may be mistaken, but when I would MC one of the students when disc spec'd I would have a harder time Mind Soothing and MCing right from the start. When I started switching to my Shadow Spec with my gear for it, I would have no trouble mc'ing and not starting the fight pre-maturely. I could be wrong but every time I have switched to my shadow it has gone much smoother.

 

Glasswizard

A very persistent rumour seems to be that Pain Suppression doesn't actually reduce 5% of the total threat a char has accumulated to this point (as you would persume reading the tool tip) but that the char with Pain Suppression only generates 5% less threat during the buff's duration. Is this true? Is there any evidence to support this claim?

 

• constantius

It's trivial to check. However, I was Disc last night and used it on someone complaining of threat, and they promptly shut up. For anecdotal "evidence", that seems to indicate that it still removes some threat.

Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house. - R.A. Heinlein

 

The Not So Evil

Similar experiences here with Vezax. PS + Hand of Salvation usually fixes threat problems very well.

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Alighieri

Quick question:
I see lots of posts about the BiS trinkets for Priest PVE. I was wondering if anyone knows the BiS for PVP? Most high ranking priests are packing the Battlemaster's trinket. Is this really that much better than what I have now (Je'Tze's Bell)?

 

• constantius

If you don't see the advantage to a clickie +HP buff (that can be used while silenced) over a mana regen proc that might go off 2-3x per match, not sure what to tell you. Yes, the [Battlemaster's Bravery] is better than [Je'Tze's Bell] for pvp.

Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house. - R.A. Heinlein

 

Alighieri

Ok, then two more quick questions about the BM trinket: does it trigger gcd and can it be used while stunned?

 

Jaeto

After reading a post on the Disc Healing thread and double checking the general healing compendium, I'm wondering if I've been gemming my gear incorrectly.

Currently I've been dropping 19 SP gems into everything or the Dragon's Eye variant if it gave a set bonus of +SP or crit. Should I be gemming for int instead or a mix of int and SP? I know SP is listed as something that is always good to have more of but so is int, hence the confusion.

My current stats are: 1140 int, 2181 sp, 25.75% crit (holy), 456 haste rating.

Thanks in advance.

 

Sinndir

Chance your meta gem to [Insightful Earthsiege Diamond] and after that start matching your socket bonus'. Spellpower is not always the best answer and you're losing out on free itemization by not taking set bonus'.

 

• constantius

Your crit and intellect are low, and your haste is high (for Disc). Spellpower is in good shape.

Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house. - R.A. Heinlein

 

moowalk

No and No.

 

Lambi

You have to ask yourself what you're healing. Is it tank healing only, is it raid healing only or is it something in between?

The more raid healing you do, the more valuable SP becomes and the more tank healing you do, the more valuable crit becomes. Haste is definitely not a bad stat for a disc priest if you use spells such as PoH and GH. Gearing as disc is actually pretty complex especially if you're a jack of all trades with different healing roles on all fights.

SNAKE!

 

cloudscraper

And it probably becomes even more complex if your guild focuses on 10 men raiding with 2 healers.

In such a context, you are forcedly going to do more than simple raid healing or tank healing, thus making the whole gearing matter even more complicated.

It could probably be better if the OP could give some more details on WHAT his role usually is, during the raids.

If you see me healer-specced, it's just for fun.
If you see me shadow, it's for epix

 

Jaeto

Lately I've been doing a mix of MT healing and raid healing in predominantly a 25 man raid setting. A typical night would something like raid heal for Razorscale, OT/raid shielding for Ignis, MT heal for XT, Steelbreaker tank heal for IC, raid heal for Kologarn, etc so it's pretty mixed. Here's our WMO log of our first night in Ulduar this week (I'm Jati):

WoW Meter Online - Combatlog Replay

I started stacking more haste because I read that it isn't a bad thing to exceed the 6% haste from gear. On top of that, I found myself having to cast PoH fairly often, but it could mean I need to work more on my pre-shielding. I had toyed with the idea of going Holy but the raid leader wanted to keep me disc for the 3% raid damage reduction since we don't always have a prot pally, and the fact that shields tend to smooth out raid damage.

 

Iroared

How does scarab brooch compare to naxx/ulduar trinkets? Yes its level 60 but it scales perfectly, would it make sense to use it as a disc priest to stack a shield on the tank before a large hit comes?

Edit: or is the proc just for one heal?

 

meddle

I dug up this post in the Shaman forums concerning the [Scarab Brooch]:

Seems novelty at best for the vast majority of fights; would be interesting to see how it works in the hands of someone using it with [Val'anyr, Hammer of Ancient Kings], though.