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04/08/09, 4:15 PM
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#931
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Von Kaiser
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Well, a disc priest's most used spells are Flash Heal, Penance, and Power Word: Shield, if that's what you're asking. There's plenty of other spells that you certainly should have bound and be using, though, so I'm not quite sure what you're looking for in an answer. Where you bind them is a matter of personal preference, depending on how often you use the spell. There's no healing-related spell that I would consider not binding at the moment, except *possibly* Divine Hymn and Holy Nova, but even those find their uses.
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04/08/09, 4:33 PM
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#932
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Glass Joe
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Thanks for the input, it's much appreciated. I guess what I'm really interested in is finding out if there are any players similarly situated to myself (in terms of mouse configuration and spec i.e. Holy to Disc). I'm curious as to what bindings they use, so that I can adjust my bindings in an efficient manner. For instance, as a holy priest, i typically bind left mouse button to flash heal, mouse wheel to CoH, and right mouse button to GH. I also use my CTRL, Shift and Alt buttons in conjunction with my mouse buttons for various spells, such as Shift+Left Mouse Button for binding heal, Shift+Mouse Wheel for Abolish Disease, etc ...
I am sure there are discipline priests out there that use grid and clique (or maybe Healbot) for raid healing, so I just wanted to kind of "poll the forum" for players' input on how they manage their bindings. And while I know this is largely a personal preference / play style issue, I just wanted to get an overview of what other players are doing. As a convert from Holy to Disc, albeit probably temporarily, I thought it would be helpful. Thanks again for any comments.
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04/08/09, 5:26 PM
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#933
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Glass Joe
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i'm disc and switch to holy on occasion.
i use grid. I have clique install, but have only binded dispells to my mouse.
the rest of my frequently used spells are binded to 1-7, 8 or so. i never really felt the need to bind everything to the mouse as i'm constantly useing WASD keys and mouse in conjunction anyways.
I have Penance binded to key 2, so when i switch to Holy all i actually do is pop CoH in that position, and GS in my PS spot. thats about it, i think. i used to have CoH binded to key 2 in BC days, so its logic swap for me.
It's not like disc has entirely diffferent set of spells from Holy, just different priority in using them in different situations... and even that is slight.
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04/09/09, 2:50 AM
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#934
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Piston Honda
Human Priest
Earthen Ring
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Quall - I basically do what Sephine does. Holy/Disc have almost all the same spells, so I swap Penance and COH / PS and GS. The only other difference would be PW:S and the addition of Power Infusion. PW:S you should already have bound somewhere, so that is simply a matter of remembering to use it. PI is a bit weirder since may not ever use it on yourself. A macro like:
/cast [target=YourFavoriteDPS] power infusion
/t YourFavoriteDPS OMG POWER INFUSION!!! DO A DPS!
is my preferred option. I hit it whenever I see the cooldown come up.
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04/10/09, 1:29 AM
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#935
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Great Tiger
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After doing some testing of Replenishment as well as looking through some combatlogs of our raids I've come to the following conclusions about Replenishment:
1) When it triggers the game will look through the list of mana users (incl. pets) in the raid and it will pick the 10 lowest (in terms of absolute mana as can be seen by the high number of ticks that high regen but low max mana classes like Enh Shammies, Retadins and Hunters have) that don't already have the Replenishment buff that was given to them by someone else. i.e. It doesn't "poach" targets from others.
2) There is a hard cap of 10 targets that can receive Replenishment from a single provider. If a trigger of Replenishment ends up choosing different people to receive the buff than those that had it before and there's now more than 10 people, then those getting it before but aren't getting it now will no longer get any mana from it (and probably lose the buff too, but that's harder to see as there's no combat log entries for it).
3) You don't gain mana from Replenishment if you're already at max mana (you can still get targeted to receive the buff though).
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04/10/09, 1:02 PM
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#936
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Glass Joe
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I play a standard Disc priest. Link. Considering the probable 3.1 issues, i was curious about the mana kickback options available and their possible conflicts. Tried a few searches but came up they missed.
I currently run with Darkglow and Soul of the Dead. I stuck an ESD in Gothik's due to cost savings, the complete lack of need for regen at the moment and that I'm approaching the intel theoretical breakeven ...maybe.
If i go with the IED, will there be cooldown conflict with the Darkglow and SoD? I have a handful of trinkets (86 darkmoon).
Thanks for everything. Love this resource.
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04/10/09, 1:22 PM
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#937
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Piston Honda
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Nope, IED/Darkglow/SoD don't share a cooldown, they each have seperate 45 second internal cooldowns. I am planning on keeping IED in my helm as it is worth up to 600mana/45 seconds = 66.7 mp5.
*Edit* whops thank you Constantius, I mistyped that.
Last edited by Squeakster : 04/10/09 at 9:47 PM.
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04/10/09, 7:49 PM
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#938
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Soda Popinski
Pandaren Priest
Windrunner
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ESD = [Ember Skyflare Diamond]
ISD = [Impassive Skyflare Diamond]
I assume you meant IED = [Insightful Earthsiege Diamond]
I did the math a few months ago, and the conclusion was that you would need over 2100 intellect for the 2% int to balance the 600 mana proc. The fact that IED also has intellect was just icing on the cake. If you want throughput, that's fine, but don't kid yourself into thinking that 2% intellect is anywhere close to the mana returns from IED.
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Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house. - R.A. Heinlein
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04/11/09, 8:39 AM
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#939
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Glass Joe
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Resilience & on crit effects
I have heard two conflicting reports on how Resilience affects skills such as Blessed Recovery that proc when crit, and I'm hoping for some clarification.
If an attack *would* have been a crit if I had 0 resilience, but instead was not a crit due to my resilience, will Blessed Recovery proc regardless? (i.e. Is there some magic "crit-but-not-crit" range on the hit table?)
|----------Crit----------|---Not Crit but BR procs---|--------Hit--------|---Avoid---|
Thanks in advance.
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04/11/09, 8:53 AM
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#940
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Don Flamenco
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I believe that Blessed Resilience just has a proc chance on every non-crit attack equal to your resilience-based "crit suppression". I don't have a source to back that up right now, though.
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04/11/09, 8:21 PM
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by typobox
I believe that Blessed Resilience just has a proc chance on every non-crit attack equal to your resilience-based "crit suppression". I don't have a source to back that up right now, though.
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The internal mechanics of the ability doesn't seem terribly important, so long as it can proc from non-crits. Does anyone know one way or another if these sorts of abilities can proc from non-crits?
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04/11/09, 10:26 PM
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Honorary Toastr
Night Elf Priest
Dragonblight
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It's been explained by blues that Resillience gives a separate chance to proc any ability which would normally proc on a crit.
Keyword being separate. It's just a roll. So thusly you can get Blessed Resillience to proc but not gain a Blessed Recovery or Martyrdom proc at the sametime.
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Originally Posted by arison
Everyone should start from the same place and rise based on their abilities, desires, and schedule. No one plays MMOs to *be* powerful, they play MMOs to *become* powerful. It's the journey, stupid. The rarer loot is, the more cherished it is when you get it, but only so long as there is a reasonable expectation to get it. The rarer loot is, the better it feels when you kill a boss or when $AWESOME_TRINKET drops.
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04/13/09, 2:02 PM
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#943
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Von Kaiser
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Right. You can verify it pretty easily by standing in fire while wearing resilience gear. Even though environmental damage from the fire can't crit it will proc Blessed Resilience, Martyrdom, etc. with a chance proportional to the crit chance reduction provided by your resilience rating.
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04/13/09, 4:32 PM
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#944
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Glass Joe
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Thanks to everyone who posted some responses/input to my key binding/mouse questions for Disc. I really appreciate the info. I'm still working on my configuration and your comments are very helpful. I did however recently purchase a new mouse with more programmable buttons (6 more than my previous mouse), so I have some experimenting to do. Thanks again.
XOXOXO
-Q
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04/13/09, 11:26 PM
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#945
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Glass Joe
Draenei Priest
Drak’Tharon
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Sorry if this has been answered before, but I could not find it anywhere.
As a shadow priest, which is the most beneficial cloak enchant, the 23 haste? or the lightweave embroidery (a chance to cause an additional 1000 to 1200 Holy damage when you damage an enemy with a spell)?
I am already 450 tailoring.
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