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Old 10/17/09, 3:05 PM   #1651
Tronn
Von Kaiser
 
Tauren Druid
 
Eredar (EU)
I'm running TotC25 (normal mode) with my alt priest as disc and thought a bit about my trinkets. Right now, I'm using [Spark of Hope] and [Pandora's Plea], but are [Tears of the Vanquished] + PP better as disc because Spirit is really weak? I'm not sure how good the unique equip effect of the Spark really is.

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Old 10/18/09, 2:41 AM   #1652
Zaq
Don Flamenco
 
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Blood Elf Priest
 
Ursin
The Spark's mana savings are really very strong, there was some talk of it in the Ulduar priest thread if I remember correctly. ToV is probably a little more useful most of the time, just cause of the replenishment/rapture synergy. Still, do you really need two regen trinkets? You could potentially pick up a lot of throughput in that slot instead.

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Old 10/18/09, 12:30 PM   #1653
Kaacee
Don Flamenco
 
Kayc
Dwarf Priest
 
No WoW Account
How do I configure Grid Manabars to show full mana, instead of showing the deficit? I've been trying to figure it out for an hour, but I cannot find it anywhere.

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Old 10/18/09, 6:18 PM   #1654
KingsTears
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Priest
 
Kirin Tor
Gotta Recount Noob question:

Why in Naxx10 (Maexxana) is my Greater Healing only healing between min 582 (avg 3171) and max 7516 and critting min 3467 (avg 3815) and max 4010? The toolitp is telling me that "A slow casting... for 4378 and 5083." I have 2495 spell power self-buffed. Is that sp reflected in the tooptip and what am I doing wrong? All this effort to get my gear and sp up and... 582 on a 2.4 second cast? I actually saw that scroll up and nearly cried. Is there a mechanic in the instance or this fight that is killng me? *pout*

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Old 10/18/09, 7:36 PM   #1655
Nyad
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Priest
 
Theradras (EU)
Originally Posted by KingsTears View Post
Gotta Recount Noob question:

Why in Naxx10 (Maexxana) is my Greater Healing only healing between min 582 (avg 3171) and max 7516 and critting min 3467 (avg 3815) and max 4010? The toolitp is telling me that "A slow casting... for 4378 and 5083." I have 2495 spell power self-buffed. Is that sp reflected in the tooptip and what am I doing wrong? All this effort to get my gear and sp up and... 582 on a 2.4 second cast? I actually saw that scroll up and nearly cried. Is there a mechanic in the instance or this fight that is killng me? *pout*
That does happen because of her Necrotic Poison Ability.

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Old 10/18/09, 11:51 PM   #1656
aysling
Glass Joe
 
Human Priest
 
Blackrock
Hi all

Thank you for all the discussions so far.. I have really benefited tremendously from reading them.

I have a question about the two trinkets from Onyxia:
[Shiny Shard of the Flame]
[Shiny Shard of the Scale]

Is it worthwhile for a Holy Priest to get them?

Many thanks,
Ays

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Old 10/19/09, 1:43 AM   #1657
Lazare
Piston Honda
 
Human Priest
 
Lightbringer
Not really, no. Your getting 96 mp5, 250 sp, and a weak healing proc (2.5k to 3.5k instant heal, decent proc chance, 45s internal cooldown). (I'm ignoring the HP5 and I'm tempted to ignore the healing proc. Both are damn close to useless.)

For comparison, [Solace of the Defeated] + [Forethought Talisman] gives 128 mp5, 261 sp, and a weak healing proc (3,5k HoT, 20% proc chance, 45s internal cooldown). Frankly, any random combination of trinkets is going to be at least comparable, and if they're Ulduar/ToC and vaguely appropriate for your gear/spec/role they're likely to be significantly better. I don't think there's anyone who really benefits from the Onyxia trinket set.

Last edited by Lazare : 10/19/09 at 1:49 AM.

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Old 10/20/09, 12:45 AM   #1658
meddle
Von Kaiser
 
Undead Priest
 
Trollbane
Has anyone been able to configure Grid to show raid icons since the latest patch? GridStatusRaidIcons seems to be broken.

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Old 10/20/09, 2:50 AM   #1659
Tronn
Von Kaiser
 
Tauren Druid
 
Eredar (EU)
Works fine for me. Which problems do you encounter?

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Old 10/20/09, 3:56 AM   #1660
Fetal
Glass Joe
 
Murloc Priest
 
Mal'Ganis
How much haste should a Holy Priest go for? I'm currently starting ToC Hardmodes.

Also, is there a best in slot guide for priests?

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Old 10/20/09, 12:20 PM   #1661
 Sjonkel
Don Flamenco
 
Human Priest
 
Doomhammer (EU)
Originally Posted by meddle View Post
Has anyone been able to configure Grid to show raid icons since the latest patch? GridStatusRaidIcons seems to be broken.
Worked fine for me yesterday. Guessing you either aren't showing them (Center Icon) or you have given Penetrating Cold higher priority than marks, in which case they won't be shown.

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Old 10/20/09, 3:15 PM   #1662
Azarias
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Priest
 
Tarren Mill (EU)
Ok this might be a silly question, but is it worth to hold of on ToC upgrades as a disc priest in order to keep the 4 pieces t8 bonus?
I have the 232 gloves atm, the Flowing Robes of Ascent and enough emblems to get a second 232 set piece (thus getting the 2t9 bonus), both (the other 232 pieces is an upgrade regardless) would be a nice upgrade stat wise. However, it would mean losing the 250 spellpower proc, which I'm not sure is worth it.

Chest upgrade would be: +17 int, +7 spirit, +25 spellpower, +74 haste, -50 crit
Gloves upgrade would be: +12 int, +11 haste, -8 spirit, -4 spellpower
and ofcourse, +20% healing on PoM, -250spellpower proc.

Personally, I'm getting less and less sure, which sucks because I traded a Trophy of the Crusade for the chestpiece (which I really regret in hindsight).

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Old 10/20/09, 9:14 PM   #1663
andyisdumb
Glass Joe
 
Undead Priest
 
Darkspear
Originally Posted by Fetal View Post
How much haste should a Holy Priest go for? I'm currently starting ToC Hardmodes.

Also, is there a best in slot guide for priests?
400 haste is generally the rule of thumb for holy priests. Although, I will say that I am way under that because i lost alot of haste on the new tier and i had no problem getting through 10 man heroic.

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Old 10/21/09, 4:56 AM   #1664
Garantio
Von Kaiser
 
Dwarf Priest
 
Азурегос (EU)
Azarias, I think this problem is very subjective. To get an answer, I got a log of the fight I'm interested in (i.e. the fight I find quite common and challenging from healing point of view), put all my casted spells into Rawr and seen that 4T8 bonus is better for me than even an ilvl258 full T9. But that's my healing pattern, my guild's healing setup etc etc
Still, I plan to roll on trophies for off-spec holy set because some times I just have to be holy. I suggest you do the same with Rawr to get an answer for yourself.

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Old 10/22/09, 4:45 PM   #1665
Venaliter
Von Kaiser
 
Undead Priest
 
Azjol-Nerub
Tab Targeting replacement

Is there a macro or mod that replaces the extremely flawed tab targeting functionality?

I'm looking for something like one (or more!) of the following: Target a mob without X debuff, Target a mob you haven't targeted within X seconds, or target the mob progressively further away?

I do not know if this is possible.

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Old 10/22/09, 5:10 PM   #1666
tsigo
Don Flamenco
 
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Tsigo
Undead Priest
 
No WoW Account
It's not.

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Old 10/23/09, 10:06 AM   #1667
Dalinah
Glass Joe
 
Human Priest
 
Scarshield Legion (EU)
e: Please delete this, beaten earlier.

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Old 10/23/09, 1:39 PM   #1668
Espoire
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Priest
 
Windrunner
Shadow tier set effects

Just how much DPS is the t9 2piece set effect (+6 seconds Vampiric Touch duration) worth?

I've been trying to decide on whether to drop my t8 4piece for it.

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Old 10/23/09, 9:02 PM   #1669
Starfire
Honorary Toastr
 
Night Elf Priest
 
Dragonblight
Originally Posted by Neferneith View Post
Raiding Toc25HM as Disc, I frequently end OOM before Jaraxus death or during Jormungtars.
I'm not proud of my gemming, favouring SP over everything else.
Red 23sp Yellow 12 sp 10 int Blue : 12 sp 15 stam.

Should I swap 15 stam with Spirit or mp5?
Should I put Int in every yellow slot?
Should I just wait for Solace of the Fallen?
Before we look at gear, are you using your shadowfiend? Is it staying up and attacking for it's full duration? Also, are you actually allowing your shadowfiend to regenerate mana or are you using it when your mana is too high and thus wasting the shadowfiend?

Further, are you using Hymn of Hope and are you using it in conjunction with the shadowfiend?

Originally Posted by arison View Post
Everyone should start from the same place and rise based on their abilities, desires, and schedule. No one plays MMOs to *be* powerful, they play MMOs to *become* powerful. It's the journey, stupid. The rarer loot is, the more cherished it is when you get it, but only so long as there is a reasonable expectation to get it. The rarer loot is, the better it feels when you kill a boss or when $AWESOME_TRINKET drops.

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Old 10/24/09, 5:28 AM   #1670
Neferneith
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Priest
 
Kirin Tor (EU)
Yes, I use, my shadow fiend as soon as possible. Usualy bringing me from 40% to 90% mana pool then possibly a second time later. I use Hymn of Hope during the transition between Jormungtars and IceHowl while my fellow Sacred priest use it after Gormok death. I restrain from using it too much on Jaraxux because of the healing downtime.
I also use Runic Potions and my talent as Blood Elf (6% mana) on CD.
Recently changing my 4pT8 to 2T9+Merlin+Ony10 gave me a good boost in Sp/Crit/Haste but downed my regen stat from 600 to 400.

I've never used Shadow Friend in conjunction with Hymne of Hope. I'll try that, thanks for the advice.

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Old 10/24/09, 6:01 AM   #1671
ildon
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Undead Priest
 
Whisperwind
One of the first things I would do if I were you would be to put Darkglow Embroidery on my cloak instead of Lightweave.

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Old 10/24/09, 6:45 AM   #1672
Hegen
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Human Priest
 
Alleria (EU)
As for gear, I think you picked up far too much of that damage dealer equipment in ToC.

Your mana regeneration has dropped to extremely low levels, and you have not compensated for it by gaining a lot of int.

Your gain in spellpower is nice, but the larger amount of itemization points has gone into crit and haste - neither of which is really useful for a disc priest beyond a certain amount, especially in 25 man where you will always have full haste and crit buffs.

Last edited by Hegen : 10/24/09 at 1:05 PM.

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Old 10/24/09, 10:31 AM   #1673
Rhand
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Warrior
 
Kirin Tor (EU)
Hello

Please, Could tell me if i should take more spirit on gem than 5mp5?

I am an holy priest


Thanks a lot =)

Last edited by Rhand : 10/24/09 at 10:47 AM.

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Old 10/24/09, 1:22 PM   #1674
lunamoon
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Priest
 
Shandris
For holy you should always gem spirit over mp5. 11 spirit =4 mp4 plus as holy spirit = sp too

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Old 10/24/09, 4:24 PM   #1675
Imua
Von Kaiser
 
Dwarf Priest
 
Kalecgos
@Neferneith: I'd also suggest switching out the blues from stam to mp5. I find that I have enough stamina so that nothing really instagibs me just from gear alone. (There are some bad things, like eating too many 2 wrong color orbs or whatever, but those are screw ups, rather than random.)

I'm disc, and I just pop one shadowfiend on a worm and that's enough to keep me good the whole fight. Another time to regen is also during Icehowl stuns. In general, though, I've not found mana to be an issue. (Well, okay maybe like halfway through a 10 minute Faction Champs or something, but by that time healing requirements are negligible so you could stand around and wand)

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