From your help and my own experience I've come up with the perfect specc for my 2v2 team. As my partner can't take much dmg I have to overheal and think alot on the healing.

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I hope someone can comment and I'm also looking for someone who play same setup as I do, would love to discuss and get learn more how to use it.
I'm playing 2v2, me as disc and my partner as boomkin druid, not the best setup, but it works

Thanks for all the help and I hope this will improove our rating
//Puupuu

Focused Will. Get it.

There is literally only one talent in the entire discipline tree that is better than Focused Will in PvP: Penance.

Edit: The spec you linked and the spec you have on your armory are different. Your armory spec, with the possible exception of taking Divine Aegis and not taking Martyrdom, is far superior.

Most kills in a Priest/Caster team are the result of a Fear->CC chain while both the Priest and the Caster are doing damage. For this reason alone, Divine Fury is wildly superior to Spell Warding. I additionally use Glyph of Smite for this reason, and go back and forth on 60/11 vs. 54/17 (with Searing Light). The most important thing you can do, running a Priest/Caster team, is communicate your CCs (get Gladius as an addon so you can time your Psychic Scream after Cyclones run out) and contribute burst damage when you need to.

Edit Two: I also think Glyph of Inner Fire is almost a requirement, with the possible exception being if you 2v2 with a Rogue.

I agree with Carisana, I believe his spec is correct Going for 3/3 Spirit Tap is a wise choice

- Starcaller Carisana.

Well my armory spec is my first Disc specc ever, didn't look thru it and I just did as all the other disc priest. But it doesn't work very well in my team.

What I am looking for is a pure survival specc, where I can survive long fights so mp5 and good healing is a must.

I don't want to rely on my critts anymore. and when my team have improoved abit I can maybe change to a disc/smite specc just to be able to put out some extra damage. But right now I just wanna run around the pillar and be a pain in the ass for my opponents.

EDIT: And yes I'm going to change my renew glyph to inner fire =)
I made some changes to get Focused Will, The World of Warcraft Armory. But I'm thinking if Enlightment is that important. Right now it maybe is, cuz my gear is not spirit based (for some retarded reason) and I need that extra spirit atm. Maybe when I got better gear I can skip those three points and get martyrdom and 2/2 grace. But I think this specc is best suited for me. There are maybe some improovements, but I think I'm on the right track =)

If you have no spirit, than enlightenment gives you 6% of nothing. What's the point?

Most people that take enlightenment take it more for Spell Haste than Spirit. Better off maxing Grace (it *does* matter a lot) and putting points in Martyrdom (worth it for -20% interrupts alone, and that's even before you factor in that it acts as an additional dispel buffer and allows you to cast Mana Burn, Smite, Mass Dispel, etc).

Well, that's true ^^

So I only have to make a couple of small changes on the spec I have atm.

I will change Devine Aegis 3/3 -> Martyrdom 2/2 and Reflective Shield 2/2 (Had 1/2 on that before.) Cuz I can't rely on my crits and need martyrdom for better spellcasting while beeing hit and reflective shield to help my partner with the dmg.

And Divine Fury 5/5 -> Spell Warding 5/5 for survival purpose

Dunno how many times I have linked different specs I wanna use, but this seems nice =)
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I tried some arena on tuseday this week with these new talents. We had below 50% wins and it was most because of my healing, so I have to do some changes again. Before we have always been above 50% wins.

When I removed Divine Aegis I have to heal more. So it's abit rough if my partner got two DPS on him. So I'm thinking of a re spec again to get that talent back. Don't really know what I should sacrifice to get it tho.

Because my gear is giving me crit I maybe should stick to a crit spec. It should look something like this. The World of Warcraft Armory. Reflective Shield is maybe not that important and I need the help I can get from Divine Aegis right now. When I get a new gear, more based on spirit, I might change to a no-crit/more-dmg spec. But that's the future and to get there I need to do the right thing now.

why do so many people spec into desperate prayer? i know its an instant cast but for 888 mana? i don't think its worth it at all

You clearly don't pvp often if you can't see the value in an instant cast heal. You know, nevermind the fact you can do it on the run or you can do it safely without being countered or kicked.

PVP is a game of burst. Burst healing and burst damage. Often times when you're bursting, mana efficiency is the last thing to think about. The two are almost polar opposites. (And traditionally in older games they _were_ polar opposites).

ha, clearly i dont pvp often? i started pvping about a month ago and have a 1500+ rating on my 2's so dont say that i dont know how to pvp. the reason i dont see the point to desperate prayer for a pvp talent is that it wastes too much mana. in a fight where another disc priest is mana burning me and i am burning him, using desperate prayer just helps the other team more than it helps me.

and when you say pvp is a game of burst, you will be gravely disappointed in the next patch when it wont be as much "burst" as there has been.
I depend on my mana to heal myself.. i dont know how much you depend on mana to keep yourself alive but thats the way I think about it.

Starfire is talking about current pvp. The next patch is irrelevant at this point (you're asking why people take it NOW) and even then it remains to be seen how much the burst really gets toned down.

Another question -- it's one talent point. What would you put it in instead? I take it for pvp because anytime I get focused it's incredibly handy to have an instant heal. (It's saved me in pve as well, but that's another story) Mana efficiency is important, sure, but not dying is paramount. Nobody says you *have* to use Desperate Prayer if you are specced into it. Maybe some games you don't really get targeted or the burst never is that threatening, so you keep it in your pocket.

Hahaha - I laughed my ass off on that. One month makes you pro eh? I been PVP-ing since before BG's were introduced in the game (TM, Southshore FTW!) and I still consider myself noob. Anyways, to paraphrase the above - You save Desp. Prayer for IF YOU WILL DIE UNLESS YOU GET A HEAL - it's not something you use if you don't have to. But the simple fact is, if you're dead all that mana you still have is for shit, because you're dead. This is the same reason PVP-ers use Battlemaster's trinket over the mana-efficient trinkets in arena - sure I run out of mana faster, but I also don't die when the shit hits the fan. And that's really what you need to be prepared for - worse case scenario - your DPS gets sapped, then blinded, then cycloned you need to be able to survive. Hence, Desp. Prayer.

This is kind of beating a dead horse, but if you compare the HPM of desperate prayer to flash heal, they're almost identical in pvp gear.

>.< I'm not saying that I am a pro at pvp at all.. I know I have a lot to work on in pvp but I am not blatantly stupid. I'm a very logical person and I see that desperate prayer is a mana burner.. but I am also up for suggestions. I want to improve the way I play which means going to other people who know what they are doing and see what they have to say. not being shot down and not really getting any help other than frustration.
But none-the-less it has helped me understand more why desperate prayer is something that is needed in pvping, so thank you for helping me out with that

Are you saying then it's not worth it to get desparate prayer? There are many times where a good rogue is just waiting to kick your heal when you have done all your instants. A crit desperate prayer is awesome. This would be a whole different argument if you were not taking items on the holy tree, but it's essentialy a free healing potion for 1 point. Ask any other classes if they would like a free health potion for 1 point.

I believe the implication here, which seems a very valid one, is that if you see Desperate Prayer as 'not worth it' because of the high mana cost despite its lack of a cast time, then you would consider flash heal useless as well since it has a similar heal per mana value and a 1.5 second cast time. Of course no one thinks flash heal is useless in PvP, which negates the argument that Desperate Prayer has no value in PvP because of its mana cost.

It's not a rumor, it's in the notes and up on the ptr.

what gems would anyone recommend using with a rogue? I kno that you need res and crit? but anything else?

Always match the socket bonus. In yellow/red sockets, put either resilience, resilience spell power, or spell power. Resilience/spell power is SLIGHTLY underbudgetted - with one red and one yellow socket you get 19 spell power/16 resilience, with 2 oranges you get 18 spell power/16 resilience.

Blue sockets kinda suck - you can put resilience stamina in there or spell power/stamina.

DKs / hunters / rets / rogues / warriors will all try to burst you down, so you have to live through the CC. If you blow all your cooldowns in the first 30 secs trying to stay alive, then when all their cooldowns pop back up (1 minute later) you will die fast. Giving yourself a respectable health pool provides you enough backup to live long enough to get your heal on yourself (insert desperate prayer) the moment you can cast again. Realize that casting desperate prayer into a mortal strike or wound poison does affect the heal (I think it shouldn't though).

I usually gem blue slots with 24 stam gems. I gem resilience, spell power, and stamin for my yellow, red, and blow socets. My eternal buckle ALWAYS has a kharmas in it. Metagem is a toss up between the 32stam/reduce stun (if you dont have furious gear) or Insightful Earthsiege (if you do have furious gear). I do this for the exact reason that the above poster listed. If you go with a red gem, you get 19 spellpower instead of 9 spellpower on an orange or purple gem. It's better to just gem with straight stats instead of trying to mix them.

Anything over 900 resilience has become an overkill. I'm running with 1010 resilience now, but waiting on a piece to switch from 2 two-piece bonuses down to the 4 piece mooncloth bonus.

Eh, I'm not sure I agree on it being overkill. It depends on the bracket. In 2v2 with a Rogue, 900ish is fine. In 3v3, even as RMP? 1010 might even be too low given how fast damage can come from a cleave team if you make a mistake and aren't in perfect positioning with perfect peels--or if you're fighting a team that can immune CC (Hi Deathgrip + Bladestorm + AMS)

I run with 961, using Battlemaster's and Living Ice Crystals because I'm an overpowered Human--and Living Ice Crystals is quite literally the only trinket better than a straight resilience trinket in my mind.

Edit: I absolutely agree on 4pc Mooncloth over 2+2. Those 2 seconds are so exceedingly important.

You kindof answered some of my question already, but ill ask anyways in hopes that I can get a bit more insight. I'm fairly new to arena and have made some poor decisions regarding gear. My current Resil is 1021 and I mostly only play 3s. At what point will I no longer need more Resil and after I get around 5% hit, will I be gemming for spellpower? I play kindof a weird comp (ret,destro,disc) only because they are my 2 best friends. Also, If i switch to a RMP team how much resil will be ideal? thanks.