Using the 1.16 PP value from the shadowpriest.com gear list.

- 40 hit rating (Snapper Extreme) = 46.4 PP
- 46 spell power (Fish Feast) = 46 PP

So the difference seems rather small to me. Feast would be better use of the fishing effort in 3.1

Is really Shadow Word: Death worthied if you got a lot of haste rating?
I mean, in TBC you had to take always in cd mb and swd but well now, if you can cast a mind flay in 2.4 seconds it means that you tick every 0.8 when with swd you would have the gcd to take into account...

I just wonder: there are two cases:
1. With heroism you would cast mf in 1.8/2.0 seconds (with my current gear I mean) while swd would still trick the gcd...it's better to cast or not swd in heroism then?
2. Without heroism does it make sense to use it now? There are many guides saying that swd now is better not to be used, other that say would be better to use as well the spell.

For a fight like patchwerk, I personally improoved my dps when I stopped using Shadow Word Death:
I usually used to do 4800-4900 and now I do with the same gear 5150-5350 dps, although a SP shall make 5.600-5.800.

Someone knows what's better to do?

Most of the problem is gear... as you pointed out you are above the hit cap (considerably) and thus you are wasting itemisation on what could be sp/crit/haste. In particular your Chest, Wrist, Waist and Cloak probably don't cut it if you're aiming for 5K dps and it might be an idea to utilise a different OH at the moment considering you're over the hit cap. Just to illustrate what i'm talking about, the top spriest parses i've seen have VT ticking around 3.8K and I believe your VT ticks for patchwerk were just above 3.1k.

The other part of the problem is your casting pattern. You managed a MB cast every 7.76 seconds, the very best spriest parses have that around 7.2 seconds and even lower, basically you missed out on 2 MB casts for the entire encounter (it doesnt sound like much but all these little improvements add up). I actually think your dot uptime wasn't too bad but I wonder if your SW:P was cast after the imp scorch buff was applied?

Lastly is to do with buffs... it seems to be you didn't have 5% spell crit which is a pretty major one. That explains some of why your dot ticks were low. I also dont see you as having a flask or food buff or shaman totems...

You pretty much neeed all buffs, top line gear and a close to perfect casting pattern to break 5K dps.

Just want to touch on what Ledha said about heroism. What have you guys found is the best rotation? Wild magic pot--reapply dots, priority again? Also, should i be applying swp on every trinket pop (say sundial)?

Hey everyone

This seems to be the best I've done on a Patchwerk as of yet. I know I'm missing quite a few gear upgrades (Armory Profile) such as Illustration, Pennant Cloak, Unsullied Cuffs, etc. However, for my gear are these numbers looking alright? I've been trying to do some comparative research and I don't see too much of a difference in numbers from priests doing 5.2-5.4k except average dot numbers which is merely a spell power issue.

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks again ^_^

edit:
I realized the fight was very long. It usually isn't, unsure why things went so slow this week. Our kills are usually 2:45 and under.

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Are you sure? I tested this a few weeks ago and it seemed "broken" still. Maybe I should check again ...

Mindflay refreshing the spellpower value of SW:P has been working the same from 3.0.2 through 3.1. It's %-based damage multipliers and crit % value that don't get refreshed. The reason you would want to refresh it with wild magic pots is for the crit %, not for the spellpower.

One of my guildies' dps is significantly less than can be expected of a shadow priest. This particular fight was extremely low, but if you check other bosses he is on the lower end as well. Now, I'd like to give him an advice, but when it comes to priests I'm clueless. Could someone look at this wws and at least give me something that really stands out and would help him to improve? A detailed analysis would be even more appreciated

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Thanks! Meow!

Thanks for the reply. I'll relay your points to him

To clarify, he should not be dropping Shadow Form to heal himself at all, but forgetting to return to shadow form is extra bad. Just take 3 points from Shadow Affinity and 1 point from Inner Focus to fill out 2/2 Vampiric Embrace and 2/2 Improved Shadow Form. Improved Vampiric Embrace will be more than enough to keep himself topped off.

Good day all, I have been doing raiding for a while, and just joined a better guild then I was used too, and one of the conditions of course is making sure your on top of your game. I have been trying diffrent casting rotations and everything and just cant seem to find a good rythym on casting and rotation to sustain what I keep getting told I SHOULD be at.

Heres a WWS and a WMO parse from last night's Ulduar 10 man we were on.

ANY and all sugestions would be greatly appreciated!

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The numbers seem fairly ok I thought? But were always told to improve ourselves, and in 25 man my personal DPS is usually really low IMO.

Here is a 25 man parse

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Again, any tips, critisim, "Hey stupid do this" would be awesome.

Thanks guys

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- Picking up mind melt would probably be useful.
- Switch out gear to drop your hit and gain other stats.
- Just make sure to keep refreshing your DoTs when they are off CD.