I've had the same thing happen to me. During moments when it's a bit laggy it happens that I spam, say Flash Heal and when heroic concentration procs I only see one haste charge and no clear cast charge. It seems that the Flash Heal which triggered the heroic concentration proc also consumes the clearcasting charge. I don't know if it's free or not.

I recently did Sarth 10man with 3 drakes. By far the most fun I've had in an encounter since wrath. The first week we did 2 healers (priest+pally) and 2 tanks (druid+DK). I did it yesterday with a 3 healers (priest+pally+druid), 2 tanks (druid+DK) setup. The druid was Sarth's MT. Basically I'm asking, any tips for future attempts? I was solo-healing the Druid Sarth MT for the most part. I kept renew up, tried to keep PoM bouncing, Flash Healing to keep him topped off, and Greater Healing when needed (which was often). Our DPS was pro, so my GS on the third breath was not needed, as the druid popped his mitigation skills.

My problem was bad timing when Shadron's add is up and the tank is taking huge damage from breaths. The tank would get knocked down to ~10% health and I'd scramble to heal him back up. The issue is when the breath comes right as a Shadow Fissure spawns under me. I move, another spawns, I move, wall comes, etc. What do other priests do in that situation? A Shield+PoM+Renew isnt going to help much while moving. Obviously if a SoL proc is up, or maybe IHC I'll use it if I can spare the time. Healing the tank is no problem if I can stand there can cast heals, but if I have to move more then once, the Tank would end up dying.

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Firstly, bring 3 tanks. Trying to do Sarth+3 with 2 tanks is just making your life far more difficult. Secondly, if it's you + paladin, you should be putting the paladon on the MT / add tank, and you cover drake tank + raid.

Beacon is awesome for Sarth+3.10, because you can almost leave the add tank alone, with beacon + Holy Shock keeping him/her alive.

In the case where you *are* healing the MT (which makes sense if your other healer is a druid or a shaman), you should have a focus cast bar mod setup, and be watching for breaths. This lets you know it's coming slightly faster, and pre-cast heals. Additionally, if you get a void fissure under you, remember that you *do* have time to complete that cast before moving.

Finally, you should have to move no more than 5' for any given lava surge. Find the spot that straddles the edges, and pick one direction (I usually do "middle") and stay there. On an "ends" call, you move 5' toward the door, then move back. Don't move any more than you have to: your job is to spam like mad on your tank until Shadron dies.

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This may seem like stating the obvious but make sure to focus Sartharion and preshield the tank when a breath is incoming.

no offense, but this is completely irrelevant.

This is not at all interesting because healing is totally different from dps. Healing is art, all about reducing the risk of people dieing to an absolute minimum. A team effort, where you adapt to the environment.

When you're talking about increasing hps on a specific fight like Saphiron, where damage is predictable and not at all risky, all you are doing is reducing the hps of other healers.

Remember, you can only heal as much as your raid is taking damage.

Whats more interesting, is how to increase your effective hps like on 6 min malygos, where you top the raid ASAP after hpdrops, because anyone thats low, is in danger. This is where binding healing shines. But Saphiron is just steady sustained healing.

p.s. If you're going for the best hps, use binding heal instead of flash heal if you have the mana:

* the base single target healing of BH is higher than that of FH.
* remember that both single binding heals will also do an additional 10% extra healing as a result of divine providence.
* BH lets you sustain your crit chance while still keeping a surge of light proc active for later use (on the move or something).
* in high raid damage environment it often occurs that you get hit while casting binding heal even though you were @ full hp when you started the (1sec)cast. This creates a win win situation. Not something to ignore!
* More procs from anything that can proc off heals (IHC/SOL/Trinketshizzle/etc.)

Like Lambi, I just solo healed Naxx 10 man last night. And by solo heal I mean solo. No offspec healers at any time.

The paladin tank used LoH twice, neither of which were necessary. He's just an idiot and forgets to use lightwell.
Other than that I had Vampiric Embrace all the time and Judgement of light, though JoL was only used on Sapphiron.

The point of this post is to get some feedback on my healing. Despite being fairly decent at my job, I can't deny the fact that I only reached 80 a few weeks back, so I'm still somewhat inexperienced. I was hoping some of you veteran priests could have a little look at this WWS report: Click me, and maybe give a few pointers.

I should probably mention that I never had mana problems. I only used 1 mana potion, on Sapphiron. The 3 times I used Shadowfiend were purely precautional, just in case things got hairy and I would need the mana. Never got innervated either.

As someone might have already pointed out, this is a heavily setup sensitive encounter.

Though there are a lot of hard combinations to do this (e.g. 2tanks/2healers - druid/shaman - which might be the hardest), the more or less easiest (always depends on factors like luck and perfect timing) combo is a 3 tanks 2,5 healers. I did it with a lot of combinations and this is the one I really became fond of.

We did this with a Druid MT (In Sta/FR Gear to have a nice buffer for breaths), a Prot Paladin for the Whelps and Fire Blazes and a Prot Warrior for the drakes. The latter tried this with shadowresgear and/or shadowprot potions, both works, though the pure def/hp gear + potion + priestbuff sufficed. The Healers are a Paladin (which is almost a musthave if one wanted it "easy"/"easier") for the MT with his beacon on the paladin (whelp tank), a holy priest (me) with GS-Spec for the Draketank and the Group (Use CoH+PoM for the most with Hot and PW:S on the Draketank to buy time and the occasional PoH if things are going smoothly - Keep your CD for Divine Hymn for a very messy moment, this works wonders with the right timing!). The half healer was a RestoShaman with ele Specc to buff the Casters in your group, ensure a quick death of tenebron before the second WhelpSpawn and to crossheal once twilight torment is up.
The rest of the group is almost secondary for the purpose of this discussion. Just make sure you have enough DPS and Support to kill Tenebron fast, the rest is just survival and sustain.

Hope this helps.

Since you're clearly able to solo-heal Naxx-10, I'm sure you were doing a good job. I've never done that, but a few things I'd comment on anyway:

- Your PoM use seems pretty good.
- You don't use as much PoH as I thought you might. Are there no opportunities, or do you prefer Flash Heal spamming?
- You didn't use Divine Hymn. There are some places where it can provide substantial healing, during Gargoyles, Sapph, Decimate and Loath for example.
- You do use Flash Heal a lot. Perhaps in some of the cases CoH would be better. If ~3 targets are hurt CoH is usually the better choice.
- Guardian Spirit is great for healing Understudies.

But ultimately none of these matter, as you beat all the encounters. What's up next? 2-healing Naxx-25?

I've got one question. How do you heal the living side during Gothik (assuming you're actually on the undead side)? Lightwell and VE?

I wondered if I could get some feedback on a Sarth 10 run. WWS I'm normally a shadow priest, but conditions have made it such that I'm finding myself more and more in the healing role. I've normally run Disc as my healing build, so switching over to Holy for this run was a different experience. I'm fairly certain that I didn't make good use of the proc's that I have available to me with that build.

I was vastly out-healed by our Holy Pally, and I'm trying to find where I can likely improve to take some of the load off him. We're looking at moving up to Sarth +1 next week, and I don't think that my performance will cut it in that situation. I did a fair amount of PoM healing, though I think that it should probably be higher. I went with a pretty standard CoH/Lightwell/Guardian Spirit Holy build, and I'm not certain if I should likely be using CoH more or not. I had the CoH, Flash Heal, and PW:S glyphs. Saddly, I did heal that fight in my +hit gear instead of my healing gear; while definately not good practice, that gear set does have more SP on it, but less regen. I'm not certain how much that likely ended up hurting me.

From reading the other posts in this thread, my thoughts for next week are leave our pally on the Sarth tank (DK) but have him put beacon on our Drake/add tank (pally)? I'll do most of the raid healing (hopefully making better use of CoH) and the Drake tank healing.

Don't know if that's how Prancer did it, but we usually stay on one side, and aoe the adds from undead side down as the ports open. It's a bit faster than the usual way (I think), but also requires quite a bit of burst healing right when the gate opens, so not sure it's possible to heal solo.

I did it by planting a lightwell on the "human" side, PoHing through the gate when they needed and keeping the undead side up with CoH, PoM and the usual spells atleast. I know you can stand on one side and do it, but as you said you need good burst healing but most of all you need 2 proper tanks, preferably aoe tanks.

It is faster when Gothik actually spawns. You have all your DPS on him right away, and they can follow him through the gate when he switches sides.

Quick question: does PoM jump to the target with most HP missing, and if everyone else is full - to the priest? Or is it random?

It appears to jump to the largest % missing an when everybody has full health it goes to the lowest health target, as far as I know.

Edit: Ideal question for the simple questions/simple answers thread.

On Gothikk I used a lightwell on the living side and put the best geared tank + a lot more dps there. It was the idea that the mobs died fast enough for the tank not to need healing, which worked out pretty well. Shield wall when Gothikk enters and he won't touch the tank.

As for my PoH usage, it is very low indeed. I think by far most of the ones I used was on Loatheb too, making my general usage even lower. There just didn't seem to be many opportunities to use it. It's still a 2.6-2.7s cast with the gear I had + interruptions, that's a long time without tank healing. It will of course be different if I'm not the only healer.

I honestly never thought of using Divine Hymn as a healing ability, the thought never crossed my mind. So thanks for that awesome tip, it'll help me out a lot. Same with the GS tip, 200k+ healing is a pretty nice use of a 3 minute cooldown, thanks.

I do use FH an aweful lot, but I also use CoH on every single cooldown if I know it will hit more than 2 people that are hurt. On any given raid encounter, especially while solo healing, my spell priority is as follows: PoM > CoH > FH > Renew. Then I insert other healing spells as needed.

Hehe, you can try to time it for a death, but need to coordinate with your tanks. If that's too risky you can just throw Renew on, then GS and follow up with Inner Focus Greater Heal spam. You should be able to get anywhere between 20k and 25k crits which is a pretty sizeable chunk of healing. It's particularly useful if there was a tanking fuckup and you're playing catch-up.

Is there any other priest that have tried running a pure crit holy spec for raiding?

I have used it through 3.0 and am now switching over to a more traditional style due to the changes in 3.1.
However, I have found it to be far better then what your typical priest has been using for 3.0. And am curious if other priest's have used it in a progression guild.

I am in a debate with other prominate priest's from my server over this, and would like some outside opinions on it.

What I have found since i made the change.
I do not need the standard 400 haste rating, because Imp HC is up at all times giving me a 1 second global Around 90% of the fight.
I can spam non-stop in a raid setting for over 15minutes and not have to use a mana-pot or fiend at any time. Even gheal spam not making use of SoL procs i can maintain a constant cast for over 10min. I know this because I tried to oom myself on KT and was unable to do it. Replen was not even up 100% of the time, since shadow priest's were sometimes waiting for new mobs to come out of the cubby.

Clearly this will not work in 3.1 so it is a moot point. I'm just curious if anyone else has tried this and compared it statistically against a standard itemization. Since I am about the only priest on my server to do this. (other then my own guild, the other priest''s that have joined have made the switch and agreed completely that its better.)

My raid buffed stats are approximately as follows.
21k mana
800ish mp5
44% crit
0% haste (not counting totems, or ret.)
2300 spell power.

What do you mean by "pure holy crit spec"? Did you just stack crit in your gear as much as possible or did you actually make changes to the vanilly holy raiding specs? Could you please post you priest's name so we can have a look at gear and talent build?

A while ago there was a discussion about the max attainable crit chance for a holy priest and someone linked to a profile that had close to 40%, but only about 100 haste rating. I had a quick look through the achievements and I think that priest had pretty much done everything there is to do. So I concluded that it's a viable way of gearing. I'm currently in the process of changing some of my haste for crit, because I'm a bit concerned about 3.1. It's unlikely though that I'll be able to get rid of all my haste by then.

Thing is, nobody is going oom. ppl dont need loads of crit to get there in current content.
So ppl stack for output via haste and spellpower as they can get away with it.

PoM jumps to another player with the most efficent HP loss in 20yards. If everybody is at full health, PoM will bounce to any priest in range - it doesn't have to be the one who casted it.

Having PoM very often active on you in 5-mans (where GCDs aren't so important like in raid), i use SW:D a lot to let it continue to bounce forward.