Healer Gear Quick Reference - Page 2

Brainyack · 04/11/09, 1:34 PM

Though it lacks stamina, in my opinion Faces of Doom is a pretty decent offhand that might belong in the first part (craftable offhand).

tasha · 04/11/09, 2:57 PM

Helpful list.

About the head though... I know blizzard still puts some heads without meta slot. But the difference is so huge, I don't see any reason to aim for anything without a meta.
Even if it's mostly a regen boost, you can use lesser gear/enchant which are more throughput oriented, and come out stronger overall.

The epic head without meta in the list has mp5 and spirit on it. v.v

brogers810 · 04/22/09, 12:35 PM

minipav · 05/02/09, 11:01 AM

Hi I like the WoW head Comparison tool but is there a way to add the gems in the gem sockets and put enchants on the items so you can compare them as they will be used on your toon without having to manually do the math. I'm not sure if this can be done on the wow head site or not if it can, can some explain how and if not dose anyone know a site that will do this.

Uzziel · 05/07/09, 9:12 AM

There is a simple way to add gems in a Wowhead comparrison. Step by step instructions below:

Find some item you want to check out:

Item Comparison Tool - World of Warcraft

Add the gems you want to see on it with the "+item" button:

Item Comparison Tool - World of Warcraft

Then drag the gems, one at a time from where they are to "on top of" the item. This will group them, thus grouping the stats:

Item Comparison Tool - World of Warcraft

This will factor in the raw stats on gems, but will not show the socket bonus if you end up matching for it. Pencil and napkin still required for socket bonuses.

Fun fact, once you group multiple pieces of gear together in Wowhead compare, you can click the down arrow and choose "View in 3D" which will show you the "set" on a 3D model. Pretty dope stuff. Hope this helps.

chollensbe · 05/08/09, 2:24 PM

I am new to EJ forums but came looking for advice. Currently, I am duel spec Disc/Holy. Sometimes I heal MT, sometimes just raid heal. I am having a hard time deciding on which pieces are best. I have collected a lot of gear and don't know which is best for me or if some pieces are better for disc vs. holy. Sorry if this is lengthy or in the wrong place. I have noted what I currently have if you have suggestions for better gems etc. LMK.

I have
Head:
[Cowl of Vanity]Grobbulus
[Cowl of Innocent Delight]Loatheb, Gluth
[Hood of Rationality]Malygos- Currently wearing with 30sp + 8mp5 ench/ 25sp +3% meta gem/ 8 int + 3mp5 gem

Back:
[Disguise of the Kumiho] 25 Emblems of Valor
[Cape of the Unworthy Wizard]Kel'Thuzad - Currently wearing with Darkweave Embroidery

Shoulder:
[Mantle of Dissemination]Malygos -Currently wearing with the SP + Crit enchant from Sons of Hodir
[Valorous Shoulderpads of Faith]Loatheb, 60 Emblems of Valor

Chest:
[Robes of Mutation]Gluth
[Sympathy]Sapphiron
[The Sanctum's Flowing Vestments]Sartharion +1- Currently wearing with +8mp5/ 19SP and 16Spirit gems
[Valorous Robe of Faith]Four Ponyriders

Hands:
[Valorous Gloves of Faith]Sartharion - Currently wearing to get the 2 piece set bonus/ 19 sp gem/ 28 sp ench.
[Valorous Handwraps of Faith]Sartharion

Staffs:
[Spire of Sunset]Thaddius
[Aegis of Damnation]Four Ponyriders, Gluth - Currently equipped with the new +81 spellpower enchant
[Staff of Restraint]Sartharion

Wands:
[Touch of Horror]Gothik
[Fading Glow]Loatheb - Currently equipped

edited to say I used the initial post listing...

Marthalion · 05/11/09, 4:52 AM

Compiled a list of all items Ive been able to find thats somewhat relevant to disc priests. Items are limited to epic quality though, so the list is only useful for 80 toons that are looking for upgrades from heroics and up.
The list uses the disc gear stat weights that are listed in TheDoctor's post about disc priests here on EJ. Hopefully thisll be of help!

Stats Weighing Disc

Silencium · 05/28/09, 5:53 PM

Is there a site or somewhere here where I can look up the BIS items for holy priests 25 ulduar?

Resonant Yaw · 06/02/09, 1:47 AM

Using the stat values found in the Discipline Healing Compendium v3.1, I found that the [Deathchill Cloak] is a perfectly viable back piece for a starting raider. In fact, it trumps the other back pieces once you apply the aforementioned stat values. While I understand that a majority of healing priests are Holy-specced, don't forget that some of us are Disc-specced.

McCreighton · 06/17/09, 11:31 AM

I didn't see this mentioned as an option for your Crafted / Rep / Heroic Instances items. Ancestral Sinew Wristguards - Item - World of Warcraft

These would be a viable item for starting out raiders.

Rauri · 07/16/09, 2:28 PM

Thanks for the list!

Another Crafted BoP item you may want to list is the JC made Figurine Sapphire Owl. It Begins with 42 int, but has 2 sockets. By placing 2 JC BoP Brilliant Dragon's Eye in this trinket, one would have a trinket with 96 intellect and half a mana pot every 5 minutes. Not a major "use" benefit, but nice for heroic through Naxx.

In addition, you would have an item you will not replace every other day using 2 of your 3 Dragon's Eye, making it easy on your JC token collection.

Valoth · 07/30/09, 11:13 PM

Thanks for the list, it's helped a ton.
Although i don't get why you included the T7 + T7.5 set pieces for Shadow in this list if it's supposed to be a quick reference for Healers - are they actually viable for healers, or ?
Sorry if it is, my priest is an alt - i'm bad. =P

Bremic · 08/01/09, 1:51 AM

I put together the following spreadsheets to help me make decisions about which gear to take for my Holy healing set from raids. I created it after finding a link to an EJ post giving the following respective values for various stats.

MP5 0.5, Stamina 0.1, Intellect 0.4202, Spirit 0.5139, Spellpower 1, Crit 0.448, Haste 0.5669
(Note: These are new numbers, see update note below)

First I created an Ulduar list, then with the information about 3.2 I made one for new 3.2 kit including Crusader's Colosseum. The 3.2 list is a little better organized as I had refined the sheet a little by the time I created it.

Patch 3.1 & Ulduar Item List
Patch 3.2 & Crusader's Colosseum Item List

These lists of course are purely based on stats, and assume you will be using the gem colors needed to get the socket bonus. Set bonuses are not inlcuded - this is a guide to allow you to decide what is better, not a comprehensive breakdown including everything.

If you want to play with the numbers to suit yourself, you can download the spreadsheet in the ODS or XLS formats.
Patch 3.1 & Ulduar Item List Download (ods) (xls)
Patch 3.2 & Crusader's Colosseum Item List (ods) (xls)

The spreadsheets also contain data for Shadow Priests (my offspec) and Balance/Resto druids (for my wife's toon). The Shadow Priest list includes Holy set pieces on the list, as it is more likely I will get those than Shadow ones, in blue text. The Druid lists include cloth, also in blue text. For dps classes the list is broken into pieces with +hit and pieces without, so you can make decisions on items based on whether you need the hit from them or not. The stat values for these have been obtained from various sites.

Update: Updated both 3.1 and 3.2 Holy Priest stats based on BobTurkey's Math

Update: Included all the new Trial of the Crusader loot discovered.

B Ferret · 08/01/09, 2:03 AM

Originally Posted by Valoth

Thanks for the list, it's helped a ton.
Although i don't get why you included the T7 + T7.5 set pieces for Shadow in this list if it's supposed to be a quick reference for Healers - are they actually viable for healers, or ?
Sorry if it is, my priest is an alt - i'm bad. =P

If they were to drop off a Vault of Archavon they would be viable for Discipline healing due to their crit rating.
However, it should be noted that intended healing set would be better if you got your hands on the token and how to pick between the two.

Mideci · 08/11/09, 4:05 PM

Originally Posted by Rauri

Thanks for the list!

Another Crafted BoP item you may want to list is the JC made Figurine Sapphire Owl. It Begins with 42 int, but has 2 sockets. By placing 2 JC BoP Brilliant Dragon's Eye in this trinket, one would have a trinket with 96 intellect and half a mana pot every 5 minutes. Not a major "use" benefit, but nice for heroic through Naxx.

In addition, you would have an item you will not replace every other day using 2 of your 3 Dragon's Eye, making it easy on your JC token collection.

Not to necro too far in the past, but it's always wrong to assume the stat benefit of the Dragon's Eyes in a case like this. Yes, you are correct that the item is likely to stick with you a while and so putting the Dragon's Eyes there is a good idea. But the reality is they could've been socketed anywhere in your gear and therefore it's more "correct" to perceive the trinket as worth 42 int + 2 x 20 int (or 16 when you wrote this) = 82 int.

The reason why this is slightly important is that a trinket worth 83 int and "half a mana pot" is actually better for you. And certainly one worth 100 int would be. If you view the trinket as "worth" the Dragon's Eye-socketed value, you are overvaluing it.

Reptyler · 09/25/09, 9:01 AM

Will this thread ever be updated for newer gear? That little "reserved for Uld25" post is driving me a bit crazy.

That said, I'm definitely using this to help the less-prepared healers in our guild get geared up. Thanks for all the work that went into compiling this information!

Hpkthree · 09/25/09, 11:17 AM

This is my first post on EJ and wanted to get some thoughts on the current BiS for Holy Priests. I know that this information is usually based on preference and healing style, but I wanted to get other peoples thoughts on how to gear.

Currently my guild has cleared all content in 25 man raids aside from anub or hard mode ToC. Previously I was stacking int on my gem slots to get my crit and mana up since I was healing a significant amount more than the other healers in my raid and needed the regen from replenishment, but it kind of bit me in the a$$ when we had no replenishment one raid, but I adjusted. Currently I have pandoras plea and the emblem of triumph trinket to give me a ridicluous amount of int and Spell Power on procs (4300), but my real question is if stats are better than the set bonuses?

Last night I got my 3rd pc of 9.25 and I wasn't sure if it was worth replacing my 2 pc t8 bonus. I don't have empowered renew so the 4 set bonus for t9 is kind of a waste, but I was wondering if in your opinions the stats you gain outweigh the bonus loss. I don't use prayer of healing too much but when I do, having 10% more crit, does help to guarantee a free flash of light proc.

Im now to the point where I have a nice amount of int unbuffed (25k) and started trading my 20 int gems for SP/Haste to get my haste up. How much haste is needed to get to cap for a holy priest? How much spirit is too much spirit?

Sorry theres so many questions, just wanted to get some help from number crunchers out there. Just some food for thought.. and conversation.

Loopah · 09/25/09, 2:34 PM

Originally Posted by Hpkthree

Hey guys,

This is my first post on EJ and wanted to get some thoughts on the current BiS for Holy Priests. I know that this information is usually based on preference and healing style, but I wanted to get other peoples thoughts on how to gear.

Currently my guild has cleared all content in 25 man raids aside from anub or hard mode ToC. Previously I was stacking int on my gem slots to get my crit and mana up since I was healing a significant amount more than the other healers in my raid and needed the regen from replenishment, but it kind of bit me in the a$$ when we had no replenishment one raid, but I adjusted. Currently I have pandoras plea and the emblem of triumph trinket to give me a ridicluous amount of int and Spell Power on procs (4300), but my real question is if stats are better than the set bonuses?

Last night I got my 3rd pc of 9.25 and I wasn't sure if it was worth replacing my 2 pc t8 bonus. I don't have empowered renew so the 4 set bonus for t9 is kind of a waste, but I was wondering if in your opinions the stats you gain outweigh the bonus loss. I don't use prayer of healing too much but when I do, having 10% more crit, does help to guarantee a free flash of light proc.

Im now to the point where I have a nice amount of int unbuffed (25k) and started trading my 20 int gems for SP/Haste to get my haste up. How much haste is needed to get to cap for a holy priest? How much spirit is too much spirit?

Sorry theres so many questions, just wanted to get some help from number crunchers out there. Just some food for thought.. and conversation.

Forgot to post my armory link in case you wanted to give me your thoughts : The World of Warcraft Armory

Thanks,

In regards to your questions about switching to that 3rd piece of t9 over keeping your 2pc t8, I believe that is completely situational. I am also in your situation. I currently wear two pieces of t9, two of t8, and some i245 legs. When I do get more pieces of t9, they will be solely gotten for throughput upgrades. I'll keep enough t8 in my bags during raids to switch to the 2pc bonus on fights where PoH is a highly used spell. It's the same thing I do when I need to go Disc and I am raid shielding; I leave t8 in my bags for the 250sp from the t8 4pc.