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Old 11/17/09, 9:57 AM   #851
pocketmage
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Holy Nova and CoH(downranked) are fantastic for ToGC10, and shouldn't be forgotten.

I tend to put a top rank Renew on each tank, let the other healer(or healers if no holydin) then tap Holy Nova as needed for ranged group and occasionally CoH melee as needed. Penetrating Cold people get a top rank Renew and an occasional Fheal.
 
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Old 11/17/09, 11:42 AM   #852
 Endahl
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I apologize if this derails the topic, but I've found bringing a shadow priest to the raid is such a crutch, as all of the current shadow priests in my guild pull *max* 4k dps. Obviously their utility is fantastic for Anub10, but at what cost?

What are good numbers for a shadow priest in a typical 10man raid? Say, on Jaraxxus or Beasts.
There should be no cost to bringing a shadow priest as part of your Anub 10 healing strat whatsoever. If you find a shadow priest gimping your raid or doing anything other than eliminating the need for Leeching Swarm heals for their group (whether they have Imp VE shouldn't really matter), the problem is the player and not the spec.

As for your other question, a ToC 10 geared (232/245) shadow priest should do more than 4k dps on a heroic target dummy with self buffs alone. Actual raid DPS will vary a lot more in 10-mans than 25s due to variance in buff availability, but it should be higher than 4k for both Beasts and Jaraxxus due to all the multidotting even if there are no spell damage buffs in your raid whatsoever.
 
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Old 11/20/09, 4:49 AM   #853
Tygerlily
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Almost every combination of Healer/DPS can do ToGC 10, but what's really important is what you bring along with them to make it smooth.

Some things that we try to always have are:

- MS effect
- Heroism/Bloodlust.
- Block tank for adds.
- Judgement of Light, Healing Stream Totem, Vampiric Embrace, Holy Nova...
- Hand of Freedom/Hand of Protection.
- Frost Protection Pots/Healthstones/Healing Potions.
- Nature Resistance Aura/Totem.
- Strong DPS.

^ We usually have all of the above minus Heroism, Totems and Vamp Embrace.

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Old 11/20/09, 6:51 AM   #854
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I don't think that the ability to block is very important for a ToGC 10 tank. However, Paladin tanks have an edge over the others at the moment:

- More Threat
- Three AoE interrupts for Anub adds
- You can let them die once every two minutes without consequences

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Old Yesterday, 9:55 AM   #855
Nightseye
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All of you are overcomplicating the healing on 10 man Anub'arak. The only thing that you need is Prayer of Mending on cooldown and it is sufficient to keep your entire raid from dying to Leeching Swarm. Sure it may not be the most efficient way to reduce phase 3 time, but if you made it this far into the instance, the extra healing from PoM isn't going to hinder your DPS so much that you won't ever kill the boss.

We've been running a disc/pally healing setup for as long as I can remember. The paladin's only job in p3 is to spam heal the tanks with beacon, and I'm in charge of healing the entire raid + PC targets. Use PoM on the current lowest target in your raid, then the bounces will do the rest for you. Shield both PC targets when they come up and alternate flash heals between then and you're basically golden. Rinse and repeat until the boss dies.
 
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Old Yesterday, 4:56 PM   #856
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It's actually even simpler than that (with less healing):
- Holy Nova your group
- Renews on the 3 people in the tank group who aren't tanks (they'll be physical, so JoL will do most of the healing)
- PWS+FH on the two PC targets

PoM does far too much healing, even if it is smart.

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Old Today, 1:18 AM   #857
Finkum
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Originally Posted by Tainter View Post
I don't think that the ability to block is very important for a ToGC 10 tank. However, Paladin tanks have an edge over the others at the moment:

- More Threat
- Three AoE interrupts for Anub adds
- You can let them die once every two minutes without consequences
I would disagree; a correctly geared block tank simplifies ToGC-10 a great deal, paladins especially because, in addition to the above advantages, they will spend the entirety of phase 3 in Ardent Defender range, thus taking 20% reduced damage (and reducing the amount of healing Anub does).

Without a block tank it is much, much more difficult to 2-heal phase 3 unless one of the healers is a Holy paladin with Beacon; and with three healers, depending on your synergy and skill level, it can be difficult to reach phase 3 with just a single burrow phase.

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