It honestly sounds much easier to just make a mouseover macro for your PW:S, and fix Grid or whatever you use to see who has Weakened Soul. Been a while since I did this in 10 man, but in 25 man a single priest(even disc) can quite easily keep an entire group up by himself. This might not be as feasible in 10 man since you might only have a single ranged group that will attract a lot of Hand Pulses, but you should try it. Melee obviously has to watch for fire and always stay behind the hands to minimize damage. As long as all healers have range to everyone, I really don't think it should be too hard.

Edit: The enrage timer is much, much more forgiving in 10 man than in 25. Make sure everyone knows this, and that they prioritize survival rather than absolute maximum dps. Also, because of the nicer enrage timer, consider blowing Bloodlust in phase 2. Not only will you get through the phase faster and therefor minimize the gib factor, but it also makes it easier to heal.

I'll go find the mouseover macro in combination with grid changes, didnt think/forgot about that.
for the logs you can check World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

For the last 4 or 5 tries we changed the resto druid to his main spec moonkin and one of the mages log his resto shaman. This setup actually worked better for us and we reached P3 a couple of times.

We found it to be really helpful to split the raid 5/5 in P2. Melee + Paladin or Shaman healer in the middle, and casters + Priest or Druid at range. Any more than 6 or 7 moving around at range, we found that his shooting would just overpower our healing.

I just did firefighter 10m as disc a few days ago. As someone else said, fix grid or your healing addon of preference to show the weakened soul debuff and use clique or a mouseover macro to spam shields on everyone. What we did for P2 is to have me healing the melee, our druid to focus on the ranged players, and the paladin to heal me, the druid and herself. I actually found it relatively easy to keep spamming shields on everyone in the raid not just melee and still keep the melee all healed. I switched out my flash heal glyph for the PoH glyph just because of this phase. We killed it on the 2nd try of the night using that method.

And disc is perfectly capable of healing this. You just need the right idea on how to go about it. Once all of your shields are consumed and everyone has weakened soul if you need to get some quick heals off use borrowed time or put power infusion on yourself so you are casting PoH much faster.

At the start of P3 use Hymn of Hope and Shadowfiend to regen and you are good on mana again (depending on how much PoH spam you did during P2). I don't know if anyone else does this, but I have my Shadowfiend in a macro that casts it on the target of my target. So I just keep healing the tank and hit my macro and my fiend goes for the target of the tank without me ever having to switch targets. Save Divine Hymn for P4. It's very hectic and if fires aren't controlled well you will end up needing it.

Something I found with P2 firefighter that made healing worlds easier was setting up groups ahead of time with at least 1 melee in each. Since POH's range is based off who you cast it on, I would pick 2 people in melee range (one in each group) and target them exclusively. This allows the ranged to spread out in a circle more, and not worry about getting out of range of heals. (Assuming they stay ~30 yards from the boss.) For reference this was 2-healing as disc with a resto druid.

Otherwise as was said above, set up your grid to show weakened soul, roll shields and toss POM.

Hi all - we started Heroic ToC 25 last night and struggled a bit on Gormok. In honesty this isn't really a healing question, since healing-wise we did ok with me as Disc, 2 palas, 2 shaman and a tree. Its more of a general strat question.

All of our attempts we were 15-20% behind on DPS (i.e. Gormok was still on 15-20% when the worms came out).

Our strat last night was to spread the healers and ranged dps out to avoid as much fire damage as possible and Snobold people ran to the melee group just behind the boss. We had every DPS available switch to killing snobolds then back on the boss.

I'm pretty sure this tactic is gimping our overall dps since:

- Ranged dps lose dps when running
- Some classes lose dps by switching targets constantly
- hunters in particular are pretty much useless if they are standing right on top of the boss, waiting for a snobold to be killed.

I'm thinking we should condense the healers and ranged a little so that we are all in range of each other + the melee group, and then have a ranged team (hunters, boomkins, mages, ele shaman) concentrate on killing snobolds leaving the melee group (+locks, spriests) to burn the boss down.

Does anyone have any pointers about how we can maximise our DPS further (apart from using haste potions)

We used a 3 tank strategy

WoL is here (we cleared normal mode beforehand, heroic attempts are all the wipes):

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

Points to consider:
1. You have Levitate. Try it out. It's nifty for Gormok.
2. 3 tanks and 6 healers is fairly standard. You can even get away with 7 healers.
3. Running in so melee can assist on Snobolds is fairly common practice, especially since target switching sucks for most ranged classes.
4. Your dps needs to pick it way up. Until you can actually beat the worm spawn, you're not doing it right. Part of that is going to be keeping most of the ranged on the boss, not the snobolds; they can help with incidental AoE, and some target switching as their dps allows.

I hate to say it, but it's definitely your dps. You've got about five people hovering around 6000 dps, and the rest are all well below that. Your hunters and melee should all be screaming dps during this. I looked at the WoL for my heroic kill, and during Gormok there are four at or over 7000 (melee) and six more at or above 6000 (and our guild's strength is *not* its dps). Our Gormok kill was 107k raid dps. Your best attempt was 83k, and that's with Bloodlust. We have the ranged dedicated to snobolds when they are up, and the melee are dedicated to Gormok.

Also, Constantius says you can get away with seven healers, but we did it with five (two holy priests, holy paladin, druid, shaman), and in your case, I'd suggest fewer healers to try and squeeze out even more DPS on the boss. My guild goes short 1-2 healers for most fights because we have incredible healers, but I know that's not true for everyone. If you can pull it off with five healers and add another 5000+ raid dps, you'll be that much closer, but you won't hit the benchmarks without everyone else in your raid pushing their dps a little harder. Might be a gear issue, too, but I didn't check.

Hope this helps, and good luck on your future attempts!

p.s. I wouldn't cheese the encounter and use Levitate. I just found out about it, but my understanding is that it's a bug. I'm surprised people are endorsing "creative use of game mechanics" on these forums, to be honest. It's too easy to move out of the fires. The only time you have a problem is if you get stunned by the snobold the same time a fire patch hits the ground. Earn the victory, don't exploit bugs.

We go 2 tank, 6 heal. (Prot pallies are extremely effective for getting off Impale stacks)

We ignore snobolds on melee, and if any ranged or healers get it, they move to just behind the boss, outside of AOE range. The ranged dps then blow up the snobold. It may take longer, but your melee pretty much just stay on the boss.

your DK and your spriest are crazy low also. If you can not comfortably beat the timer on Gormok you are going to have tons of problems in hard mode. (besides the worm timer and the Icehowl enrage timer, being able to destroy portals on Jaraxxus before a second Mistress comes out will also be a problem)

Endorsing bugs seem to be the only way they ever get fixed anyways. Side note, sure. But personally, I just levitate myself and/or Resto Shamans or Holy Paladins IF they're next to me. I'd say cheesing it is going all-out Levitating every ranged/healer and keeping the levitate up.

We already kill heroic beasts on 1st or 2nd pull but this is kinda new for me. Can you please elaborate on Levitate usage? How does it help?