I have run holy on all fights so far in 25 man Uludar (we are up to Hordir) and have loved it! Question I have about Hordir, I had a hard time finding the cozy fires last night so that I could stop the biting cold (I think that's what it's called) debuff from stacking..leading me to jump around like crazy with pom/coh/renews all ticking on various raid members and FH/POH and then jumping again to remove the debuff's. How do you guys handle the moving on this fight? Do you run around like crazy or use a macro to somehow target the cozy fire?


Thanks!

Not quite sure what you're asking here, but I will offer what I have experienced on 10-man Mimiron as a Holy Priest.

My situation is similar except that I am healing alongside another Priest (Disc) with a Resto Shaman (instead of a Resto Druid). If we coordinate well enough with weakened soul (read: who is shielding whom) we complement each other very nicely for this fight. There's no doubt that both specs shine in this encounter: Body & Soul when Mimiron does his P3Wx2 Laser Barrage in phase two, serendipity-hasted Prayer of Healing for his AoEs, Guardian Spirit (glyphed) for Plasma Blast in phase one and then again in the chaotic fourth phase. Discipline of course offers its damage mitigating shields, spammable on the raid, making damage much less spiky and more controllable. Our Shaman mostly refrained from Chain Healing except at moments when we could manage to be clumped together, which was not often (though we could have organized the raid to facilitate this, I suppose). She stuck to spot healing with Lesser Healing Wave mostly, along with Earth Shield of course and Riptide.

Both sets of tools (Holy and Disc) get the job done, I personally think it comes down to preference, honestly. If you are asking what I think you're asking (Holy or Disc for Mimiron?) I would say do whichever you enjoy the most. In your group composition, Discipline might have the slight edge if only because Druids and Shamans are less effective tank healers.

Has anyone found a successful strategy for Iron council when leaving Steelbreaker for last? We tried several attempts and have no problems until 2/3 dwarfs are down and Steelbreaker is up. Seems a few seconds after the adds spawn all 25 of us get that nasty AOE and die.

edit: 25 man with a flexible raid group that is able to sub in classes as needed.

We did Steelbreaker last on the PTR, and basically: heal like mad. It's just a heavy AoE damage phase, and you have to focus and burn heals to keep everyone alive while you limp through to a glorious victory. It reminded me a lot of M'uru P2.

A little late, but more testimony to the disc spec for this fight:

Our set up -
We run with 7 healers (2 shamans, 1 druid, 1 pally, 2 holy priests and 1 disc priest)
Prot Pally on one side to pick up adds (healed by druid)
Prot Pally on the other side to pick up adds (healed by holy priest)
Prot Warrior picking up random adds but priority on Sentinels( healed by holy priest)
The remaining four healers were on raid healing (note: pally healer was a replacement so just let him fill in spots)

A rogue even dual specc'd into FoK interrupt to limit the number of chain lightnings.

Initially I put myself on tank healing, and eventually as the night progressed I went to raid healing. I spent the time moving around the circle pw:s tanks, people who took fireballs, and people who took chain lightning damage.

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We got the kill despite it taking over 10mins. The key difference as the fight went on was how many deaths were prevented. The raid healing strat became I would shield, and someone would back fill with a heal. So I was non-stop shield casting, and relying on others to top off. If a weaken soul debuff was up on a person who got hit again, I would use ProM as a back filler.


We did have problems with keeping a tank alive during the second phase. I was healing the tank to try to help smooth spike damage, but was unsuccessful. We are going to try to coordinate cooldowns better. Do people have any suggestions on this?

During phase 2 we rotate tanks so we dont get owned by the -80% armor debuff.
Since there is almost no raid damage and all healers are in the tanks, there should not be any problem.

I guess you are rotating tanks too, right?

Usually they just speak in Ventrilo and say something like "My Shield Wall is over, taunt him". You have 20 seconds of debuff and around 4 tanks. There is enough time.

We were rotating between two tanks. We could easily throw a third in there to increase the cooldowns. Thanks.

Guardian Spirit:
Transitions on XT
Tanks on Razorscale who have more than 2 stacks
Tank(s) on Ignis, esp right after Flame Jets (really not an issue since the bitch-slap of a nerf)
Aeriya pull
Kologarn rubble or both-arms-dead
Mimiron: MT on Arcane Barrage, MT with Plasma Jets in p1
Iron Council : Steelbreaker tank(s)
Hodir: Frozen Blows
Thorim: whenever
Freya: on yourself to make pretty angel wings
General Vezax: don't be holy for this fight
Yogg: tanks on Guardians in P3

Basically, with a 1 minute cooldown ... use it every minute.. Stop thinking of it as a save button and more as a +healing buff that you can use indiscriminately. I use it at least twice per fight since I got the glyph, just because. Going to channel Hymn of Hope? Pop GS on your assigned target. Don't have an assigned target (raid healer)? Throw it on the MT anyway; it lets the other healers heal for more, and if they're smart, cast-cancel a bit.

What is the general rotation Holy Priests are using now in Ulduar? Sounds like were working PoH into the rotation. I used to be shadow so im very new to healing.

I thought it was just, PoM, CoH, and Flash Heal.

Someone please help? I'm not topping any priests in Ulduar and im 14/57/0

There is no "rotation." You look at grid/your unit frames, and based on your job, the raid damage, and it's distribution, you chose a spell. Flash Heal, PoH, PoM, CoH, PW:S, Renew, Flash Heal, Binding Heal, Greater Heal, and Guardian Spirit are all useful. Flash Heal, CoH, PoH and PoM should be doing most of your healing most of the time though.

Yeah, gotta say that while I'll most certainly be disc for the hard mode, B&S is made of infinite win for kiting him. It saved our MT at least once, and probably twice. He actually moves pretty fast for something that's being kited.

For hard mode it's arguable - holy is going to look pretty good with the AOE damage. I still think the interesting interaction between the -70% spell cost clouds and PW:S is going to actually make disc the better raid healer there too, but we'll see. We're gearing up for the hard modes at the moment, and I'll tell you any observations I have about priests roles in them (respecting the rules of this site in regards to specific strategies, of course).