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Old 06/19/10, 3:22 AM   #286
Starfire
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Night Elf Priest
 
Dragonblight
There's a 4th option, use a 21/41 (+9) Disc/Holy Priest. It gives you the benefit of Soul Warding and Circle of Healing; however this priest won't have Rapture, so mass-shielding the raid will not be sustainable. (You also lose Guardian Spirit and Pain Suppression/Power Infusion).

Also, every holy priest should be able to cover at least 6 people through Infest with no problem. Prayer of Mending should guarantee 1 person and a Prayer of Healing on melee should cover 5. The shield difference is surprisingly small, because the holy priest has more spellpower and couple of talents to help make-up for Borrowed Time.

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Old 06/22/10, 1:15 AM   #287
Pixlol
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Draenei Shaman
 
Winterhoof
Bobbeh,

Currently the druid is only with the run because we are working with what we got. I told to healers that I can generally only handle about 18 Give or take some With PW:S, but usually i get blamed for anyone dying to infest. Our second priest gets back this week so him + his valynar should make a huge difference in our healing group + the 25% buff I believe hits this week as well. While on the topic you mention going Disc / Disc which Is what we were going to try however it seems like having one Disc and one Holy would work the best with him instantly topping off the melee with Prayer of Healing and then CoH immediately following. I haven't been able to see if this work but was curious if that's a valid strategy. Also, we had a Paladin emo rage this week and was curious if it was highly possible to have a restoration shaman healing the MT with a Holy Paladin beacon on the MT while healing the OT.

Thanks again for all the information its helping when we get time to get pulls in.

PS: Also regarding 10 man we are doing Holy paladin / Disc but it seems to get rather rough with raid heals During the transitions any advice?

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Old 06/22/10, 3:30 AM   #288
Garantio
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Dwarf Priest
 
Азурегос (EU)
Originally Posted by Pixlol View Post
PS: Also regarding 10 man we are doing Holy paladin / Disc but it seems to get rather rough with raid heals During the transitions any advice?
I'd say you should spread out better. In 10-man there shouldn't be any big problem to spread your ranged so only 1 or 2 are going to be hit simultaneously. If you're melee heavy then the things look a bit worse but... well, I found that all or almost all ICC10 fights benefit ranged heavy group over melee anyway

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Old 06/22/10, 10:29 AM   #289
jula
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Night Elf Druid
 
Ravencrest (EU)
Bobbeh,

On the subject of the shaman and druid assignment, keep in mind that you pretty much want 100% inspiration on tanks in this fight, since Soul Reaper gibs are still very dangerous and sadly neither the druid nor the paladin healers can't do provide this buff. The disc priest will be shielding raid and almost never the tanks, and the holy will also be busy with infest with it comes, leaving your tank sometimes without the -10% physical dmg buff.

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Old 06/22/10, 11:37 AM   #290
Bobbeh
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Blood Elf Priest
 
Arathor (EU)
With the tactic we use (Shaman/Holy) the 2 infest healers are essentially just tank healing anyway until the brief period where they need to clear infests meaning inspiration will more than likely be up all the time.

As for Soul Reaper our second tank just range taunts it so when done right it'll never result in a death.

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Old 06/24/10, 9:32 PM   #291
savingyoazz
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Human Priest
 
Misha
ICC 10

My ICC 10 group is stuck on the Lich king. I've found that keeping PW:S up on the inside phase where the valkarie are carrying off the people helps a lot to keep the other heals on the tank (2 druids). I'm the lowest geared person in the group, aside from the PvP bracer that was better than my lower level one, do I need to regem? Re-enchant? Anything like that? Any suggestions other than to put up PW:S in that phase and keep prayer of mending on the tanks on every CD? Should we grab another Disc priest to help with the infest? Any suggestions would be awesome. Thanks.

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Old 06/25/10, 2:31 AM   #292
Sgat8516
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Night Elf Priest
 
Garona
Originally Posted by Pixlol View Post
While on the topic you mention going Disc / Disc which Is what we were going to try however it seems like having one Disc and one Holy would work the best with him instantly topping off the melee with Prayer of Healing and then CoH immediately following.
Disc/Disc isn't really an effective combo, for 25HM at least.
What we basically did, was designate 3 groups for myself (disc), a melee group for the Holy Priest (and left overs for the sham's CH bounce). Doesn't put out the max number of possible shields, but its a little more reliable (especially when 1 of those healers is picked up). I shield my 15, get a PoM out on one of the common targets to not remove infest (mages/locks/paladin's seem to take slightly more damage, possibly through a lack of % spell based damage reductions in talents), when done with those, I'll get a few renew's going (depending on time).
Those 15 players are mostly my responsibility, so when infest rolls out, those are my priorities to remove infest debuff (rather than restarting shielding immediately, with 2 people still having infest).
We typically use a Sham bouncing CH's through the MT (picking up the other melee in G1 for infest, along with CoH after the PoH cast for Holy Priest), keeping up 10% reduction. The priest version of this is much more difficult to manipulate on a single target (Target MT w/ 6 people at lower % Hp around him = those 6 get healed and not tank, doesn't 'have' to hit the primary target).
As for the rough damage at transition, the P1 transition is fairly low impact (as the platform is still there), and no one should be taking Winter ticks. But the second transition, everyone in the raid takes at least 1, plus your dealing with P+S. About the only thing you can do, is either have the raid fully shielded already (can be tricky, but if there's an infest right before transition, there needs to be a raid CD call). Also, having designated sides to run out at helps to (2 ranged run out about 10-15yds from the LK MT with a healer, few others and other healer on other side, spread far enough to maintain range, but avoid 10person cone).
If damage during the transition (melee heavy groups), only way I've seen thats really effective, its to just have melee watch out, split them to 2 groups, if they get a 4 stack (self monitored), each group takes 2-3 steps further apart (out of dps range), for 1 P+S pulse, which will reset the stacks on at least most of them.

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Old 07/14/10, 4:22 AM   #293
Carnathagia
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Troll Priest
 
Mal'Ganis
Halion Heroic

Holy with Body and Soul is very effective for Heroic Halion. If you have a Disc Priest, ask them to restrain themselves from rampant bubbling in the 1st phase to leave your raiders clear for a free sprint when they get consumption/combustion. It's also very mobile in the twilight realm. You are able to put out a lot of healing with your instants and keep Guardian Spirit for dangerous moments on your tank or to save people that get RNG'd with debuffs or cutter.

I used the 18/53/0 spec I'm wearing for the longevity with instants, and even got some good healing with Lightwell when I remembered to use it.

Halion 10 Heroic

Last edited by Carnathagia : 07/14/10 at 4:31 AM.

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