Doesn't work for me. Ticking off "Tricks of the Trade on cooldown" doesn't change my projected DPS.

All the same, imagining two rogues with my gear (Shadowcraft) doing Tricks on cooldown on each other, we'd each gain (43756,5 * 1,03) - 43756,5 = 1312,7 - 563 (glyph) = 749,7 DPS from unglyphing it. Provided that this math is correct, Shadowcraft (correctly) shows a DPS loss by unglyphing, while from a raiding perspective it's an actual DPS gain.

Yeah, it's something I had posted about here, about a month ago, so far there hasn't been any work done to narrow it down and fix it, AFAIK.

The glyph does not remove the 15% damage buff, it just shaves of 5% so you only lose 1% of the damage not 3%. Which results in a 437.6-563= -135.4 dps loss for your example. So unless you have specific tricks targets that have bursty dps and organize it with them its still a raid dps gain to keep tricks glyphed.

If you have the glyph then it won't change your DPS since either way you're not using energy. If you disable the Tricks glyph then toggle "Tricks of the Trade on cooldown" you'll see your DPS change.

Thank you for correcting that. Reading comprehension is key.

I was thinking about the T13-2P bonus. Not using Tricks on cooldown - with or without the glyph - should be a DPS loss as you're missing out on the energy discount it provides.

Shadowcraft seems to have values for heroic versions of valor and trash items, when these aren't available in patch 4.3 content as they were in Firelands. Could these be removed and/or could an option be put in place to include/exclude these pieces? Aside from being tedious to sift through this could help with load times and performance I suppose.

Just one quick question, will shadowcraft be updated to support the new br realms?

When i try to auto reforge, there are really weird results:

check out Xoui@EU-Blackrock - i ended up having 29 expertise, 999 hit.

So, when I load up your character, I see those values; when I then hit auto-reforge, it makes two changes (removing the reforge from shoulders and reforging the legs crit->haste), which results in a totally reasonable reforge. So I don't think its totally off base with what it's trying to do; it just seems to be getting stuck or misreporting the answer or something when you try.

Unfortunately, that's about the limit of ability to diagnose it - I don't have much to do with the reforger.

I wanted to ask for some clarification on the different versions of Wrath of Unchaining. Reading back in the thread I see that it is a know issue that the raid finder version is not returning accurate results. I'm wondering if the normal and heroic versions are working correctly or if the values just got all jumbled up.

In other words to the untrained eye it currently looks like the raid finder version is showing heroic numbers, the normal version is showing raid finder numbers and the heroic version is showing normal numbers. Is this correct or are the normal and heroic numbers correct and raid finder is just borked?

Thanks

The bug, as I understand it, is that LFR Wrath of Unchaining is also giving the benefits of the on-use Agi of LFR Kiroptyric Sigil (which doesn't exist in the game, but does in the data files). So the valuation of normal-mode and heroic-mode WoU should be perfectly accurate - its just that the LFR version is providing some extra agility that it shouldn't.

It sort of depends on what your goal is.

If you're using ShadowCraft as a DPS estimate, yeah, that's probably as good a way to do it as any. The gap between LFR and Normal is slightly smaller than the gap between Normal and Heroic, but it'll get you in the right ballpark.

If you're using it to compare trinkets, its also a decent approach, although in practice the most common comparisons (everything but Vial of Shadows, basically) can be equally well done via EP.

If you're comparing other pieces of gear, I'd just equip the normal-mode version and ignore the problem. It will slightly overestimate your total agility, but not by enough to significantly skew stat orderings.

I just tried to reforge my gear which includes [Desecrated Shoulderguards], and am still getting a reforge suggestion of -4 Crit Rating +4 Haste Rating. I noticed this wasn't included on the ShadowCraft Known Issues list posted Jan 19.

minor thing
Everytime I load from armory it doesnt import my leg enchant as im a leatherworker it shows on my armory as Dragonbone leg reinforcements.
also everytime i load shadowcraft it shows my old tier 11 set by default shouldnt it load my last import?

Diciple @ Draenor - Game Guide - World of Warcraft

1) That's a known bug, just change it manually for now.

2) Set your favorite/bookmark to go to Diciple @ Draenor-EU - ShadowCraft, as it appears anything more than that tells it what gear to load you out with, where as this way it loads whatever you had last viewed.

Few weeks ago I noticed that Shadowcraft showing [Arrow of Time] being ahead of [Hungerer] in my profile for solid amount of EP. Then I checked other guys profiles, different specs and ilevels - Arrow is always ahead. So I came here for answer, is it a bug or am I missing something?

Thanks for answer, but then guides here needs to be updated, they putting [Hungerer] ahead of [Arrow of Time]

Is SC nowadays updated that Berserking (troll racial) also gives energy regen?

Yes. Troll is currently the highest racial dps benefit.

Actually SC is showing me that Worgen gives the best racial (172 dps higher than Troll for subtlety, 53 dps for combat, 178 for mutilate), using legendary daggers. Goblin also gives higher dps than Troll so I would assume SC is not modeling that troll racial now gives energy regen.

Kissumik @ Bleeding Hollow-US - ShadowCraft

I'm unsure why heroic seal of primordial shadow is being rated blow the vp Emergency Descent Loop

Because you're expertise capped, equip it in place of the Emergency Descent Loop then reforge. Your DPS goes up to 42150.3 from 41856.7.