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Old 09/19/11, 11:32 AM   #631
• Aldriana
Mike Tyson
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Doomhammer
We ran across a similar mastery bug a few pages back; my guess is what is happening is that 1466 happens to be where your Matrix Restabilizer switches from proccing Haste to proccing Mastery, so you lose a bunch of value from the proc when you cross that threshhold. Unfortunately there's no easy way to prevent this from happening - the stat really *does* jump in value by a significant amount at that point.

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Old 09/20/11, 1:33 PM   #632
Allubz
Glass Joe
 
Undead Rogue
 
Proudmoore (EU)
Hi. The Tremendous Tankard O' Terror shows up 2232.6 base, whereas the Pyrium Spellward has 2889.1.

According to the data here: 4.2 Changes Discussion
PSw: 686 EP
TToT: 646 EP

Surely this item shouldn't be placed way below in the list together with the blue items?

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Old 09/20/11, 8:39 PM   #633
Xpariah
Glass Joe
 
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Night Elf Warrior
 
Lightninghoof
The Tremendous Tankard O' Terror (Tremendous Tankard O' Terror - Item - World of Warcraft) is unable to be reforged on Shadowcraft as well as the Coren's Chilled Chromium Coaster (Coren's Chilled Chromium Coaster - Item - World of Warcraft).

I apologize if this was not to be mentioned here and/or inappropriately referenced.

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Old 09/21/11, 4:45 AM   #634
Saweni
Von Kaiser
 
Worgen Rogue
 
Kirin Tor (EU)
To be more accurate, it looks like Shadowcraft doesn't take TToT's secondary stats (Crit/Haste) into account at all, which explains why TToT's ranking in Shadowcraft is this terrible (lower than 359 weapons).

It looks like CCCC and direbrew's Bloodied Shanker are bugged as well.

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Old 09/21/11, 8:05 AM   #635
Docrev
Piston Honda
 
Undead Rogue
 
Zul'Jin
For some reason, Shadowcraft has started showing the two top trinkets for me as being the normal and heroic versions of Skardyn's Grace, which doesn't make any sense. It's been a while since I've last used Shadowcraft, so I can't place when this started happening.

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Old 09/21/11, 8:35 AM   #636
Shadefoot
Von Kaiser
 
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Shadowsong (EU)
Originally Posted by Docrev View Post
For some reason, Shadowcraft has started showing the two top trinkets for me as being the normal and heroic versions of Skardyn's Grace, which doesn't make any sense. It's been a while since I've last used Shadowcraft, so I can't place when this started happening.
Confirmed, I'm getting this today too. I last used Shadowcraft last Thursday and this wasn't the case then. Everything else seems to be in the order I remember from before, just those two are above Heroic Matrix Restabilizer by a significant margin (hc Matrix = 2008.3, hc Skardyn = 3077.6).

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Old 09/21/11, 10:05 AM   #637
fourdots
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Human Rogue
 
Gilneas
Furthermore, if you equip it in the spreadsheet and then go to reforge it, it lists the "old stat" as 570 mastery, which is obviously wrong, but would probably explain why this trinket has suddenly jumped to the top of the list.

Last edited by fourdots : 09/21/11 at 9:16 PM.

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Old 09/24/11, 12:37 PM   #638
Hotndeadly
Glass Joe
 
Human Rogue
 
Lothar
I use the online version and was wondering if the next time you work on it if you can add the option to cap spell hit and expertise. It's a personal preference and only ~4 dps loss.

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Old 09/27/11, 2:25 PM   #639
Brotherbear
Piston Honda
 
Orc Rogue
 
Frostwolf
So I've found an interesting behaviour.

1) Import Artifice
2) Change to stock Assassination
3) Change main hand to the normal organic dagger
4) Change my gloves to Tier
5) Hit Auto-reforge

It will then reforge my dreadfire drape from mastery to haste. If I undo that particular reforge I gain 7.8 dps. I have no idea why it's doing that.

Sorry about the convoluted process. I do my dailies as combat, but I was modeling the 4pc bonus and the reforging I'll need to do when I get that tonight when I noticed the haste - mastery thing on my cloak.

Thanks!

Edit: Now that I'm logged out in my assassination gear, it no longer does this. If you want to recreate it, start in combat with the main hand using normal gatecrasher.

Last edited by Brotherbear : 09/28/11 at 3:12 AM.

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Old 09/28/11, 12:20 AM   #640
High_Chief
Glass Joe
 
Human Rogue
 
The Maelstrom (EU)
Hello, i was wondering if there is a way to manually input stats of items in case shadow craft doesn't project them correctly. in example; the items gotten from Throne of the Four Winds and the boss from Firelands that drops random enchantment loot.

i would think that my option to remedy the situation is to calculate manually the ep value of that item, then apply it to shadow crafts calculation.. can anyone offer an insight to a more efficient method ? or there isn't one..

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Old 09/28/11, 4:42 AM   #641
Furtim
Piston Honda
 
Troll Rogue
 
Kargath
It might not show the stats, but it does indeed add them correctly for calculations.

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Old 09/29/11, 1:26 PM   #642
kindath
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Earthen Ring
Would it be possible to have a slider (maybe with an enable disable toggle) to set percentage of time behind target? I can estimate the rough EP of expertise, but it would be nice to have that option to simulate switching out trinkets for fights where you're in front a lot, or reforging for a minimum assumed frontal time -- for example, my expertise EP is just barely below crit, so for at least ragnaros and possibly majordomo, my expertise EP will definatly pass crit. Therefore, on average, it's probably better to rank expertise EP as a bit higher than crit It's harder to determine how that effects reforging, though. Would that mean reforging out of crit instead of expertise on the tier chest, even though reforging expertise would give more mastery...

Long winded, sorry.

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Old 09/29/11, 3:21 PM   #643
Slythas
Glass Joe
 
Undead Rogue
 
Defias Brotherhood (EU)
Bio-Agile Killshades

Not sure if this dps increase is accurate or not, but when I'm changing from my Killshades to my newly aquired tier 11 helm, it nets me a ~1000 dps increase. Is this correct or is there something seriously wrong here? I did change the cogwheel to a regular gem aswell by the way.

PS: The new tier 11 helm is the 359 version.



Slythas @ Defias Brotherhood-EU - ShadowCraft

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Old 10/01/11, 6:53 PM   #644
naknekm
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Baelgun
I saw this alluded to, but not answered. I am combat. When I change my trinket from DMH to Ancient Pet. Seed, I get a 150 dps loss. If I change from DMH to Rickets, I get a 330 loss. I am wondering why. It sure seems to me that just looking at the stats, that Ancient Pet and Rickets should give me a dps increase rather than a loss. I wonder if the Proc in Ancient Pet. is not accounted for in Shadowcraft? Or is DMH really better, being a 359 as opposed to 378 or 365 ilevel?

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Old 10/03/11, 11:15 AM   #645
Manaba
Glass Joe
 
Troll Rogue
 
Blackrock
Originally Posted by naknekm View Post
I saw this alluded to, but not answered. I am combat. When I change my trinket from DMH to Ancient Pet. Seed, I get a 150 dps loss. If I change from DMH to Rickets, I get a 330 loss. I am wondering why. It sure seems to me that just looking at the stats, that Ancient Pet and Rickets should give me a dps increase rather than a loss. I wonder if the Proc in Ancient Pet. is not accounted for in Shadowcraft? Or is DMH really better, being a 359 as opposed to 378 or 365 ilevel?
All procs are accurately accounted for. Due to the large variance in both the static stats and procs found on trinkets their relative value, moreso than any other slot, cannot be determined solely by ilvl.

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