ShadowCraft: Rogue spreadsheet for 4.0 - Page 48

• Aldriana · 11/30/11, 7:46 PM

I think what's happening with all the new 4.3 items is that its confusing the socket bonus agility with the base agility on the item. That is: if the item has a Agility socket bonus (which is basically everything with a socket), its using the amount of the socket bonus as the base agility of the item instead of the correct value. I assume this is caused by a slight change in the way the item data is formatted in the armory (or wherever the UI is fetching it from), and presumably will require a tweak to the parsing to get them to work correctly.

Landerolin · 11/30/11, 8:24 PM

Had a look through but can't see anything, are the t13 set bonuses modelled? Be good to know if it's just the stat issues that are holding Shadowcraft use back.

Pathal · 11/30/11, 9:29 PM

Originally Posted by Aldriana

I think what's happening with all the new 4.3 items is that its confusing the socket bonus agility with the base agility on the item. That is: if the item has a Agility socket bonus (which is basically everything with a socket), its using the amount of the socket bonus as the base agility of the item instead of the correct value. I assume this is caused by a slight change in the way the item data is formatted in the armory (or wherever the UI is fetching it from), and presumably will require a tweak to the parsing to get them to work correctly.

I'm pretty sure it's not recognizing the 45% modifier to Sinister Strike and Revealing Strike either.

Going from using Fear in the MH, to Heroic Shatterskull and I get something like a 4k DPS increase, the only times I have ever seen a jump of that level was when I would swap from Sub to Combat and it was still calculating with the dagger.

koaschten · 11/30/11, 9:35 PM

Pathal, it should be obvious that shadowcraft wasn't written with a pair of daggers in mind which are good for sinister strike combat builds. Thats why usually shadowcraft warns you when you wield a dagger in your main hand and switch to your combat spec.

• Aldriana · 11/30/11, 9:55 PM

There has been work done to support the new 4.3 mechanics - not just the 45% SS/RvS multiplier, but also the new trinkets, proc weapons, etc. - I believe by nextormento, but I'm not 100% sure about that. However, so far as I know, ShadowCraft the website is not yet pointing at that updated version. At some point, hopefully soon here, the administrators of that site will get around to updating things. Until then, I can only council patience.

Also note that even once it is updated, the current models are estimates, as we don't have final proc rates/ICDs/AP scaling/etc. for all mechanics. It is something that is being worked on, and we'll get accurate modeling posted as soon as we can... but it will take a little time to do.

pentagramwookie · 12/02/11, 6:15 AM

Hello, the Spine of thousand cuts/ vengeance is showing as 3k dps better than fear / vengeance on Shadowcraft for Combat. I thought maybe some more calculations were missing in SC site but then I was doing 2k more damage on a dummy with the sword; this may have been a fluke due to inconsistent rotation or by how slow the ramp up on the 2x 50 agil bonus. Are the daggers 45% SS/RvS multiplier not worth it for combat if you have a slow main hand or do you want to use the fear / vengeance daggers no matter what?

Kirik · 12/02/11, 7:00 AM

Originally Posted by pentagramwookie

Hello, the Spine of thousand cuts/ vengeance is showing as 3k dps better than fear / vengeance on Shadowcraft for Combat. I thought maybe some more calculations were missing in SC site but then I was doing 2k more damage on a dummy with the sword; this may have been a fluke due to inconsistent rotation or by how slow the ramp up on the 2x 50 agil bonus. Are the daggers 45% SS/RvS multiplier not worth it for combat if you have a slow main hand or do you want to use the fear / vengeance daggers no matter what?

afaik, shadowcraft does wrong modelling of fear/vengeance proc

Varkiriel · 12/02/11, 10:01 AM

Currently shadowcraft is showing reforging incorrectly, when autoreforging. It's showing equal values of points reduced and points added. I'm seeing more points lost than gained with the new reforger

Jarush · 12/02/11, 9:36 PM

Originally Posted by Varkiriel

Currently shadowcraft is showing reforging incorrectly, when autoreforging. It's showing equal values of points reduced and points added. I'm seeing more points lost than gained with the new reforger

Reforging works exactly like it used to. Only the ingame reforging interface has changed and with that the way how changed stat values are shown. Sum up the the green and red value on the left side and you will get exactly the same value that is green on the right side.

Varkiriel · 12/03/11, 2:17 PM

yes, my bad. The new interface confused me.

Antiarc · 12/03/11, 2:55 PM

Hey folks --

I'm taking a little WoW break right now, so I've sort of neglected Shadowcraft. I'm going to see about getting 4.3 fixes in, though, so hopefully things will continue smooth sailing through the end of the expansion.

Unzipped · 12/03/11, 3:56 PM

I figure i'll add that Wrath of Unchaining is also not showing up on shadowcraft at all. It shows an empty trinket slot when you have it equipped.

Antiarc · 12/03/11, 4:43 PM

I've got most of the 4.3 changes implemented. I think things should be mostly usable now. Let me know if you notice major discrepancies - some items may need to be reparsed still.

Ashyia · 12/03/11, 4:47 PM

Hi,
Currently it doesnt display dps chart for me (nor does calculations). Can you check what's wrong?

aitsu · 12/03/11, 4:53 PM

Originally Posted by Antiarc

I've got most of the 4.3 changes implemented. I think things should be mostly usable now. Let me know if you notice major discrepancies - some items may need to be reparsed still.

Most of the items seem to be there (aside from the legendary set) but the DPS calculation doesn't seem to work anymore.
Either way, thanks for working on it!

Aitsu @ Shandris-US - ShadowCraft

Someone beat me to it so there's the link above