It's not so much the buff to assassination's damage, as it is the fact it's now simming ~1500dps better than combat in identical gear, whereas before combat was ahead in terms of single target. I'm just wondering if assassination is genuinely superior single target right now, since it wasn't before 4.3 launched.
Edit: ignore this, shadowcraft didn't change to combat glyphs after checking assassination, both specs are in a similar place to each other relative to before the buffs, I'm just dumb.

I understand things are alittle screwy currently but when I load into shadow craft it shows a 1901.6 value for Heroic The Hungerer and 2387.1 for the Kiroptyric Sigil which is contrary to to the list of trinkets in the combat guide. Regardless of actual numbers, is shadowcraft modeling that correctly that the Kiroptyric Sigil should be valued over Heroic Hungerer ?

For myself, running with hungerer (nhc), the heroic version of hungerer would be an increase of ~340 dps. Kyroptyric Sigil is calculed with an increase of ~1040 dps. Could this be right?

Currently, Shadowcraft is Simulating normal mode No'Kaled to be a 2,142 DPS increase over Fear in my main hand. I thought that seemed big for weapon with less passive agility, no combat ratings and no stacking (albeit small) buff, and guessed the proc must be very frequent.

I lost a little bit of faith when I accidentally then put Fear (1.80) in my offhand over Vengeance, and saw a 2,010.7 dps increase.

For the record, this is in stock combat spec. Is this because Shadowcraft is assuming the +45% damage bonus is carrying over to the mainhand, even if Fear is in the offhand?

I think he was saying that the simulated DPS Shadowcraft was putting out shows No'Kaled to be a DPS increase over using Fear, not the EP values (which are what rank weapons when you click them to select one). This is backed up in Antiarc's post by saying that the DPS values are correct but the listed EP ranking(s) are incorrect.

This has been mentioned a few times, but until the Legendary pair, using same-ilvl weapons (No'Kaled) are a dps increase over using tier 1 daggers and possibly tier 2 daggers due to the low proc chance on the buff for Combat as well as more yet weaker Main Gauche procs and fewer Instant Poison procs.

EastonS is talking about DPS calculations, not EP. Antiarc posted in #759 that the 45% increase is calculated correctly in the DPS calculations. No'Kaled normal is around 700 DPS ahead of the other normal mode weapons with my gear set, so either the proc is in fact very strong, or something is not working correctly.

Just checked Wowhead and Fear is main hand only, so the fact that you get an increase over Vengeance when equipping it in the offhand is moot.

Curently yes, if you equip the mainhand on *any* slot it'll include the SS/RvS bonus (not like it'll let you, but if you could equip the mh in, say, the chest slot it'd still count). While the interface is very user friendly it's certainly not fool-proof: it lets you do plenty of useless combinations.

As for the VP sigil, the modeled cooldown is 60'' as reported in mmo-champion the day before the patch; you can math out its actual EP with the stat weights asuming a 16.6% uptime. While that's the most noticeable, there's plenty of other items to get updated (including Nokaled, which is modeled as proccing of main gauche as of now). I already updated my fork, but there's still more things to fix.

Has anyone run across the erratic Sub behavior without using the legendary questline daggers? If you have, please let me know, as my working theory for what's going wrong involves miscalculation of the buff uptime.

On a related note:
@Antiarc: I've checked in a potential fix to that problem (assuming I'm right about what's causing it), so when you get a chance, please push my fix out and see if that lets things settle down a bit.

That seems to do the trick.

Agility	3.90
Yellow Hit	1.86
Haste Rating	1.77
Expertise Rating	1.58
Crit Rating	1.44
Spell Hit	1.21
Strength	1.05
Mastery Rating	1.01
Attack Power	1.00
Hit Rating	0.93
Mainhand Dps	6.54
Offhand Dps	1.06

The raid finder version is there, but it is valued lower than it should be. It seems like it is giving around 507 agi instead of the 780 that it actually gives.

Continuing the [Wrath of Unchaining] talk, I'm noticing some very sporadic tool behavior aroud this trinket.

Example A - combat spec, Wraith of Unchaining LFR ilvl equipped.


Drop 1 is noticed when I go from 390 WoU to 391 hungerer and seems much steeper than it should be. The following raise is noted when I go from 391 Hungerer to normal, 403 WoU, which the tool is showing to be a huge deal below the lfr version.

I get pretty much the same picture when specced sub - Wou LFR showing over 3k dps superior to Hungerer and about 2k dps better than WoU normal.