ShadowCraft: Rogue spreadsheet for 4.0 - Page 57

Devantejah · 12/24/11, 9:17 AM

Is something up with the weapon modeling? Shows almost all strengthweapons as clearly superior to Fear.

Heroic No'kaled has 7888.1 EP, normal 7252.6.

Seems to be mainhand only, offhands seems fine. At least to me, my character.

Abranor · 12/24/11, 9:26 AM

Is there a place I can go to download the non web version of the latest version of the spreadsheet? My attempts to google it have come up with nothing.

Bledoc · 12/24/11, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Devantejah

Is something up with the weapon modeling? Shows almost all strengthweapons as clearly superior to Fear.

The EP values in Shadowcraft don't reflect the '+45% damage on certain attacks' but the DPS calculations do. Try switching the weapons in/out and reforging/omptimizing gems rather than looking at the EP values.

Devantejah · 12/24/11, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Bledoc

The EP values in Shadowcraft don't reflect the '+45% damage on certain attacks' but the DPS calculations do. Try switching the weapons in/out and reforging/omptimizing gems rather than looking at the EP values.

Thing is, it's the first time I see anything like this, the dagger was much higher yesterday.

• Aldriana · 12/24/11, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Abranor

Is there a place I can go to download the non web version of the latest version of the spreadsheet? My attempts to google it have come up with nothing.

Not quite sure what you're looking for, but basically the only offline version we have right now is using the engine directly - this will require you to add up your stats yourself and play with some python scripts in order to evaluate it. If this is something you're interested in doing, you can grab it from github: https://github.com/Aldriana/ShadowCraft-Engine

Currently my branch is most up-to-date, but that isn't always going to be the case; I'm not always quick to pull other people's changes.

Abranor · 12/24/11, 7:10 PM

Originally Posted by Aldriana

Not quite sure what you're looking for, but basically the only offline version we have right now is using the engine directly - this will require you to add up your stats yourself and play with some python scripts in order to evaluate it. If this is something you're interested in doing, you can grab it from github: https://github.com/Aldriana/ShadowCraft-Engine

Currently my branch is most up-to-date, but that isn't always going to be the case; I'm not always quick to pull other people's changes.

I guess what I was looking for was something like the old excel spreadsheet from days gone by. I was just wanting something that was more current as far as trinkets go (that I have or are available to me) than the web tool.

Thanks.

yanhero · 12/24/11, 7:15 PM

If you just want to compare trinkets, just go to a spec specific thread and look at the gear section.

dinesh · 12/24/11, 11:12 PM

The cataclysm gear sheet was updated a month or so ago, and is still on the front page here. Unfortunately, the trinkets aren't really modeled well (and some are missing), so it won't help you with that.

Grimwolf · 12/25/11, 12:09 AM

He means go to the specific thread for whichever spec you play (Assassination, Combat, Subtlety) and in the OP there is a section on current bis gear and a list of all the current trinkets complete with EP values.

Furtim · 12/25/11, 6:25 AM

Noticed a bug while I was disabling buffs to simulate a Target Dummy test.

If you have 2pc T13, disabling "Tricks of the Trade on cooldown" has no effect on DPS.

dinesh · 12/28/11, 9:01 AM

Aldriana: ShadowCraft still has the bug when importing from armory that it will not properly import at least the Dragonbone Leg Reinforcements, possibly more leg enchants.

Furtim · 12/29/11, 12:22 AM

It appears you are unable to delete a Snapshot that has an Apostrophe in the name, like "Combat - No'Kaled".

RelaxReign · 12/29/11, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by dinesh

Aldriana: ShadowCraft still has the bug when importing from armory that it will not properly import at least the Dragonbone Leg Reinforcements, possibly more leg enchants.

Correct, when I refresh import from armory my Dragonbone Leg Reinforcements are missing.

Revente · 01/01/12, 7:23 AM

My rogue is a JC and shadowcraft is requesting I use 4 delicate chimera's eyes, which I can't do because they're jewelers gems (max of 3).
I'm not sure if this is throwing off any of my values really besides the extra agility, just thought I would report it as a possible bug.

naknekm · 01/01/12, 1:49 PM

Right now I have Hungerer and Arrow of Time. I am wondering about whether the Sigel is a significant (or any) upgrade.

If I change from Hungerer or Arrow, I will lose 383 Agility and gain 458 Haste. I have done the math and it is about a 1,000 EP loss, given the current value of Haste and Agility. But the proc on the Sigel is sure tempting, 2290 Agility for 15 seconds every 1 min 30 sec, as opposed to a haste proc on the Hungerer and AOT.

Shadowcraft has an error in evaluating the Sigel, so I am unable to rely on the numbers it gives me. I don't have the ability to calculate the value of the respective procs, so I am asking for help.

Does anyone have any insight into whether it is an upgrade to switch to the Sigel?