Originally Posted by Stony
On heroic Valiona you need to enter the twilight realm(think Halion) to kill dragonkin adds.
The subtlety spec is specifically designed for that.
Damage will be incorrectly parsed since damage done on the twilight realm is not recorded for people who stay on top (again similar to Halion).
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Just wanted to expand on this as I have played sub for the last couple of weeks on this boss, and it is EXTREMELY useful for killing the adds in the twilight realm, far more so than any other class.
The spec I personally use is
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft. I have aimed for a mixture of survival and DPS talents. Enveloping shadows is mandatory, as it makes the damage we take in the twilight realm laughable.
I skipped serrated blades as it is more of a sustained DPS talent, and the emphasis of the encounter is on bursting down the adds asap. Imp recup and quickening are not necessarily essential, but I find it adds a nice chunk of survivability when your healers inevitably bail on you when their stacks start building up.
I feint just before entering the realm as you often spawn in straight onto a bomb, it also helps to have a full recup refresh just before entering. Shadowstep to the most viable add and blow shadowdance etc to nuke it down, using feint on every CD and keeping recup up 100% (both for survivability and DPS). With 30% reduction from enveloping shadows, plus 6% from imp recup and 50% from feint being up 90% of the time, we can stay in the realm often nearing 2 minutes, while the rest have to leave after 40 seconds or so.
Kill as many adds as you can and simply use cloak to exit the realm when either all the adds are dead, or cheat death procs due to having an insane amount of stacks or an unlucky bomb spawn.
At the end of the fight myself and our other rogue (hi Nosfe) usually have around four times more damage done on the adds than the next highest. It has also rapidly become my favourite encounter so far due to being able to bounce around adds with shadowstep, which makes a nice change from the monotony of assassination!
Edit: Just thought I'd throw in a vid of our first kill, as although it's from the PoV of someone who doesn't enter the shadow realm, you can see just how long the rogues stay in for:
YouTube - Method vs Valiona and Theralion 25man Heroic
I may fraps my own PoV next reset if anyone is interested in seeing it.
P.s - sorry if this is posted in the wrong thread.