Rogue Simple Questions Thread: Cataclysm Edition - Page 31

Vonvlad · 01/29/11, 8:06 AM

Originally Posted by Tinwhisker

I highly doubt it. While the SteelSeries Mouse does have it's own software to use for macros, Blizzard does keep a leash on what it can and can't do. At least once already Blizzard has put the kibosh on the 3rd party software it uses. That said, while the mouse is licensed by Blizzard, it's still your responsibility to follow the EULA/TOS. The argument that "the WoW mouse let me do it so it must be ok" holds about as much water as "the game let me exploit so it must be ok."

This video link shows that the WoW Steele series mouse is by Blizzard, and at 1:13 into the video, you'll see the software where it shows a specific area to input time into creating macros. With "Text Only" delay, Record Delay, and No Delay. This is why I still am not certain as to it's function. I can only think of GCDs/ICDs. Again, at 1 minute, 13 seconds you can see the software I'm talking about.

SteelSeries – World of Warcraft® MMO Gaming Mouse

Zulkeir · 01/29/11, 11:23 AM

Simply because Blizzard has its logo on it does not mean that Blizzard made it. Blizzard does not make hardware, they endorsed and branded the product, but that does not mean that everything Steel Series put into the mouse will be acceptable game play wise. The macros created on the mouse are not the same thing as WoW macros, they are stored either on the mouse, or through the driver you load to perform a number of key clicks with one button press. This is against Blizzard EULA. The very spot in the video you mention, you can even see the syntax of the macros are definitely not the same as in WoW. Many other gaming mice/keyboards have delays you can put in. Yes you could essentially make it a GCD. No, it's still not allowed.

As was pointed out previously, Blizzard disabled some of the direct functionality in game with the mouse, Steel Series' response was to advise users to bypass one of Blizzard's security checks via the loader. Not exactly the kind of relationship you want to get caught in the middle of.

samforshort · 01/29/11, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Seiba

I was previously using sexycooldown but its broken since cata

Oh? I've been using it since release and it works fine

Solaris1 · 01/30/11, 8:23 AM

That video is showing the "old" mouse!

The new mouse is at this link:

SteelSeries – World of Warcraft®: Cataclysm™ MMO Gaming Mouse

Waitnbleed · 01/30/11, 12:35 PM

Are 4.0.6 Combat EP values available anywhere?

bretts2516 · 01/30/11, 12:42 PM

I installed a Relentless Earthsiege Diamond and quickly realized that it isn't activated. I've currently got 4 purple gems, 3 red gems and 2 orange gems installed in 4 blue sockets, 3 red sockets and 2 yellow sockets.

It seems like I've got the correct socket configuration to activate the meta gem, but there's obviously something about the gem configuration that doesn't work.

How are purple gems counted? As red gems or as blue gems?

jsz · 01/30/11, 8:21 PM

In my experience with 10 and 25 normal, melee wants to be nowhere near the Blood of the Old God adds on Cho'gall. Your ranged dps are more than equipped enough to take them down before they get near the rest of the group at the boss.

sp00n · 01/30/11, 8:27 PM

Your ranged should do the job just fine. Hunter can and should lay frost traps. And actually I believe Crippling Poison will not trigger on a mob as long as he is within the frost trap. The trap is considered 'more powerful' (most likely because its debuff has no duration?).
Also as a melee you should be very very careful if you attempt to dps the blob adds. They will quickly stack corruption on you if they hit you.

As for the fight itself, this one is actually one of the very few that is (a lot) harder in 10man than in 25. 25man was a joke for a final instance boss (third of fourth try), but on 10man we wiped for a few hours (and this was not with alts but in an extra raid with mains - after our regular raiding schedule was already over, and most of BoT was still uncleared as we had concentrated on other encounters).
We didn't kill him until the other rogue and me solely concentrated on the boss during phase 2 instead of trying to dps/interrupt the tentacles. Which kind of just sucks as a rogue with all that target switching.
Dragging the boss to wall might have helped with FoK damage, but as we didn't, they were too far apart for AoE, and single target DPS on them just wasn't effective enough.

Skylo · 01/30/11, 8:44 PM

Originally Posted by jsz

In my experience with 10 and 25 normal, melee wants to be nowhere near the Blood of the Old God adds on Cho'gall. Your ranged dps are more than equipped enough to take them down before they get near the rest of the group at the boss.

I just quote this one, but thx for the other anwers... for instance... first time they were slowed by the hunter, but afterwards it seems they werent slowed at all ? They really got close, so i figured it might be essential that I slow em. I heard in TS3 that Shadows and Destro Locks arent especially good bombers, atleast SurviHunters are apparently. Are they just not doing their job good enough? (no offense to their part) I thought now picking FoK Glyph (50% Range) and Crippling Glyph for this fight... hoping crippling will hit every mo and slow them hard and as well doing a bit of dmg!

Seiba · 01/30/11, 9:43 PM

I was wondering, how many targets does it take to make the switch from cleaving to FoK spam for combat beneficial. On that note just to make sure DP shouldn't be used unless adds will last for 30 sec with FoK?

sp00n · 01/31/11, 4:05 AM

Originally Posted by Skylo

picking FoK Glyph (50% Range) and Crippling Glyph for this fight... hoping crippling will hit every mo and slow them hard and as well doing a bit of dmg!

Last time I heard, Glyph of Crippling Poison didn't affect application through Deadly Brew. Might have changed though.

Grimwolf · 01/31/11, 10:34 AM

Has anybody tested to see if casting smoke bomb while standing with the healers can keep the tenticles in the Cho'Gall encounter from casting Debilitating Beam on them?

Tinwhisker · 01/31/11, 2:24 PM

Originally Posted by Grimwolf

Has anybody tested to see if casting smoke bomb while standing with the healers can keep the tenticles in the Cho'Gall encounter from casting Debilitating Beam on them?

Casting Smoke Bomb around Cho'gall in melee should have the same affect, protecting everyone at range.

KinetiK01 · 01/31/11, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by bretts2516

I installed a Relentless Earthsiege Diamond and quickly realized that it isn't activated. I've currently got 4 purple gems, 3 red gems and 2 orange gems installed in 4 blue sockets, 3 red sockets and 2 yellow sockets.

It seems like I've got the correct socket configuration to activate the meta gem, but there's obviously something about the gem configuration that doesn't work.

How are purple gems counted? As red gems or as blue gems?

Relentless Earthsiege is bugged at the moment. It SHOULD count purple gems as being blue, but at the moment they do not, requiring you to use more pure blue gems than red. Doing this would gimp your stats to the point where it is not even worth using. However, the requirements are being changed to "at least 3 red gems" in 4.0.6, I believe, so hold onto it and use a different meta in the meantime (like the one I am using now).

Kroyfel · 02/01/11, 12:05 AM

If I'm not completely wrong, purple counts as red *and* blue and it's not a bug. 4 purple, 3 red and 2 orange should result in 9 red, 2 yellow and 4 blue gems, as far as meta gem activation is concerned.