Rogue Simple Questions Thread: Cataclysm Edition - Page 64

RemJay24 · 12/02/11, 9:26 AM

Originally Posted by Junlex

The combat thread mentions being able to FoK during killing spree to avoid energy capping but in-game whenever I try to do this I get the "Ability is not ready yet" error message and the button is greyed out. Did this change in the patch or am I somehow doing something wrong?

Since the patch hit live - you can no longer FoK during KS.

Sarvius · 12/04/11, 5:38 AM

It's still being modeled, but there's a decent chance that normal No'Kaled is better than completing the t1 set. The dagger procrate for combat seems to be balanced around the third tier (where finisher spam+restless blades makes the proc much more powerful for combat than other specs) and it's possible a regular 397 is better than the tier 1 dagger as well. I would suggest running no'kaled until we discover otherwise or you upgrade your daggers. At the very least, don't shard it.

Abranor · 12/04/11, 11:32 AM

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zetto · 12/05/11, 3:22 PM

How viable is Unholy Frenzy for a Rogue?

AlbertWesker · 12/06/11, 10:45 PM

Quick question
To start the quest "Proving Your Worth" for the epic daggers" After downing the first boss and you able to fly straight to the 4th boss, kill the adds and then pick pocket him in a 10 man? I am hearing mixed opinions on this matter, some people are saying you have to kill all 3 first...?

High_Chief · 12/07/11, 3:47 AM

Originally Posted by AlbertWesker

Quick question
To start the quest "Proving Your Worth" for the epic daggers" After downing the first boss and you able to fly straight to the 4th boss, kill the adds and then pick pocket him in a 10 man? I am hearing mixed opinions on this matter, some people are saying you have to kill all 3 first...?

You have to kill all 3 first, then proceed through the gauntlet before actually being able to pickpocket the 4th boss.

Two-slot · 12/07/11, 12:03 PM

Quick question for combat. Did some searching, but I didn't find an answer. While suffering stacks are building up, you have the opportunity to clip/overwrite rupture. Anyone modeled the dps gain/loss in doing this? From a common sense standpoint it seems that it would be a dps increase as your rupture ticks will be bigger (though it seems it would adversely effect the dpe of rupture). It hasn't worked 100% of the time. It seems that 1 stack or ~4ap isn't enough to change the dmg/tick of rupture and you get the "more powerful spell error". I typically have just waited until I saw a tick go out to reapply and then continue my rotation. Am I gimping myself in doing this?

• Aldriana · 12/07/11, 12:25 PM

The damage gain of upgrading an existing rupture is miniscule compared to what you can get by using the same energy/CPs on another Eviscerate instead. Rupture how you normally would and don't worry about the fact that your Agi is increasing.

Naihan · 12/07/11, 1:54 PM

It would however be a gain if you refresh it with less than two seconds left on rupture because you'll never lose that last tick.

Enteris · 12/07/11, 4:53 PM

Hey. Quick and easy (i guess) question. Since we now use 2 dagger as Combat, shoul we open from stealth with Ambush? (And just to make sure i got the rotation right, we then pop S&D, then keep everything up all the time right)

Thanks

PikaPika1006 · 12/07/11, 7:47 PM

Originally Posted by Enteris

Hey. Quick and easy (i guess) question. Since we now use 2 dagger as Combat, shoul we open from stealth with Ambush? (And just to make sure i got the rotation right, we then pop S&D, then keep everything up all the time right)

Thanks

Quick simcrafting shows opening with ambush to be about an 150 dps loss in bis gear (legendaries included), so I would imagine not.

Sarvius · 12/07/11, 8:40 PM

Given that your opener barely contributes to any of your dps, that means it's pretty dramatically suboptimal. Which is to be expected, as the improved ambush talent is the only thing that really makes it competitive.

Meta|Gear · 12/07/11, 10:22 PM

I currently have [Arrow of Time] & [Fluid Death]. Is [Kiroptyric Sigil] worth getting for combat? I'm not exactly high priority on the raid trinkets.

Nesio · 12/08/11, 12:58 AM

I looked through the For the Horde and Ensidia rogues and saw that the most FTH rogues play orc and the ensidia rogues play goblin. I now the difference is not that big between the races but coul someone say why to play orc or goblin for example or whats the "background" behined that choice?

Kushiina · 12/08/11, 5:00 AM

You can read it in the combat/ass/sub-rogue guides.
If you chose to play a goblin rogue, you gain 1% attackspeed.
If you chose to play an orc rogue, you get an active abilitiy, which increases your AP? for a few secs every few minutes + free expertise rating while using axes or fistweapons.