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Old 01/27/11, 8:44 AM   #136
Phantomwrath
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Has anyone tested to see if Wound Poison on Anshal during his Ultimate reduces his healing? I tried it a couple times the other night and it seemed to be working, I just wasn't able to confirm it.

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Old 01/27/11, 9:12 AM   #137
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Originally Posted by Phantomwrath View Post
Has anyone tested to see if Wound Poison on Anshal during his Ultimate reduces his healing? I tried it a couple times the other night and it seemed to be working, I just wasn't able to confirm it.
Can't speak to wound poison specifically, but we've always made sure to have an MS effect on him because yes, at least others work just fine.

There's really no good reason for a Rogue to be on Anshal ever though.

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Old 01/27/11, 1:02 PM   #138
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Originally Posted by dazed420 View Post
clarification:
Cardboard Assassin works as a diversion on chimaeron. *Does not work in kite phase*
When you say "kite phase" do you mean P2? Because otherwise I don't really see what value the cardboard assassin has (unless it can eat a double hit or something).

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Old 01/27/11, 2:07 PM   #139
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Rohash's Storm Shield is currently hitting me through cloak. Is anyone else having the same issue?

e: So it turns out Storm Shield can't be cloaked, hence the OP is misleading.

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Old 01/27/11, 2:45 PM   #140
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Unless the tornados were too distracting, at least a month ago the Storm Shield always hit me through CoS the few times I tried unless I timed it to immune the first tick. Generally, I only used feint to mitigate it, pooled energy to burst it down, and saved CoS to survive the Hurricane.

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Old 01/27/11, 5:12 PM   #141
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Originally Posted by Brotherbear View Post
When you say "kite phase" do you mean P2? Because otherwise I don't really see what value the cardboard assassin has (unless it can eat a double hit or something).
Cardboard assassin can eat the double attacks, specifically during feud on heroic mode.

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Old 01/27/11, 5:42 PM   #142
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Originally Posted by Brotherbear View Post
When you say "kite phase" do you mean P2? Because otherwise I don't really see what value the cardboard assassin has (unless it can eat a double hit or something).
If you drop the CA just before transition, so that it has a taunt off and remains high threat, it can soak some damage then too. As envy860 pointed out though, it is best used for eating a double attack during a Heroic Feud.

If you still have it around by time for transition, you may as well drop it and soak some damage, especially as this will help your healers get everyone topped off before the kite phase, but be sure to let your guild know ahead time and coordinate with the tanks, so they don't panic at a sudden loss of threat. Some strategies have paladin healers taunt during Feuds to up their threat (that way they get eaten before true DPS'ers). If your guilds strategy is to taunt during a feud, this may be a time to drop the assassin, that way it is on high threat after the tank taunts back, and will be a viable target during kiting.


Originally Posted by Kroyfel View Post
Rohash's Storm Shield is currently hitting me through cloak. Is anyone else having the same issue?

e: So it turns out Storm Shield can't be cloaked, hence the OP is misleading.
Either this may have been hotfixed at some point, or you can negate a tick by timing the cloak for "momentary immunity." I'll update the OP, if anyone can provide further testing, that'd be awesome.

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Old 01/27/11, 7:47 PM   #143
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Cho'Gall - # In phase 2, Smoke Bomb is useful on the tentacles that spawn to prevent them from targeting other people in you raid. This will most likely force them to target you, but you can negate their eye-beams with cloak.

I have tried this several times tonight and they still target people outside of it.

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Old 01/27/11, 9:00 PM   #144
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Chimaeron heroic phase 2

Engineers can use Grounded Plasma Shield to negate 8 seconds of damage from Nefarian's ticking aura during the execute phase of Chimaeron. Keep in mind that as with any tinkers, it can misfire, with possible effects being an aoe taunt (irrelevant since Chimaeron is immune to taunts in p2 anyway), increased chance to be critically hit (you will get one-shotted anyway) or a stun (this one is actually bad).

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Old 01/28/11, 10:47 AM   #145
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Originally Posted by No_LiMiT View Post
Cho'Gall - # In phase 2, Smoke Bomb is useful on the tentacles that spawn to prevent them from targeting other people in you raid. This will most likely force them to target you, but you can negate their eye-beams with cloak.

I have tried this several times tonight and they still target people outside of it.
It has worked for me several times in the past. I'll give it another shot and see if I can verify. Be aware that smoke bomb does have a fairly decent radius, and drops where you are standing. The graphic can be a bit ambiguous of how far the bomb actually extends, as some smoke tendrils seem to go beyond the radius, and other spots of light smoke are in the radius. If another raid member is in the bomb with you and the stalk, they are an allowable target; likewise if the bomb is too far out, the stalk may not be in it. Since Smoke bomb prevents targetting, and is not an interrupt, you need to drop it before they start their cast, if the channel is already started, it will continue regardless of smoke bomb, until interrupted. This is one of those areas which kinda highlights why smoke bomb testing is so annoying.

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Old 01/28/11, 6:33 PM   #146
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I'm 100% certain Glaciate isn't cloakable, at least not if you pre-cloak it, you'll notice on both of these cloak wears off, but only because of my death, cloak lasts for longer than the 2 and 1 seconds provided in these examples.

[20:10:11.772] Pyriana gains Cloak of Shadows from Pyriana
[20:10:13.499] Pyriana's Cloak of Shadows fades from Pyriana
[20:10:13.499] Feludius Glaciate Pyriana 121189 (O: 16878, A: 5341, R: 35852)
[20:10:13.890] Pyriana dies

Taken from World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

[21:08:14.176] Pyriana gains Cloak of Shadows from Pyriana
[21:08:15.415] Pyriana's Cloak of Shadows fades from Pyriana
[21:08:15.430] Feludius Glaciate Pyriana 51068 (O: 29813, R: 35735)
[21:08:15.776] Pyriana dies

Taken from World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis


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Old 01/28/11, 7:26 PM   #147
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By pre-cloaking do you mean casting it before Glaciate starts casting? It has definitely saved my bacon when I was slow getting out.

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Old 01/29/11, 1:24 PM   #148
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Originally Posted by Zellyn View Post
By pre-cloaking do you mean casting it before Glaciate starts casting? It has definitely saved my bacon when I was slow getting out.
No, I mean cloaking before it goes off as opposed to right when it goes off.

Cloak HAS saved me from glaciate, like more than a month ago, it hasn't recently, either there is a chance of failure, or it doesn't work at all anymore, either way it's not worth using on Glaciate when you can just run out.


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Old 01/29/11, 1:57 PM   #149
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I haven't seen it - but has anyone been able to confirm or deny if smoke bomb will interrupt the Twisted Devotion cast on Cho'Gal?

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Old 01/29/11, 5:49 PM   #150
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I doubt it, since they're already casting the spell. It may prevent you (or others) from being targetted by the mind control, but that's speculative and another issue to test.

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