This is incorrect. All specs apply the poison from their THROWN weapon with FoK. Mutilate additionally applies the poisons from your MH and OH weapons.

yep entirely my mistake on this one! This shows you how much I actually Fan things in current content. >.>

Ok THAT's the part I was missing. Vile Poisons applying the MH/OH Poisons. So for FoK if I understand it correctly it looks like this (MH Instant, OH Deadly, Thrown Instant):

Combat = (Thrown Damage*1.75 + % Chance for Instant)
Mutilate = (Thrown Damage + (% Chance for Instant + % Chance for Deadly + %Chance for Instant)*1.2*Mastery))

It's pretty clear to me now why Mutilate is so ahead on AoE damage. Plus with Mutilate applying 8% spell damage to any AoE'd target (which is usually taking spell damage), as opposed to combat simply giving +4% physical damage, it makes sense.

With the minor adjustment that Combat probably uses WP instead of IP, and that Mutilate actually gets much (almost half, IIRC) of its damage just by rolling DP on all targets.

Not that this makes Combat FoK in line with Assassination's but if you are using FoK as Combat you should be using WP on your throwing weapon not IP, unless what you are FoKing will last for ~30+ seconds in which case you may want to use DP.

Double Post on the Combat part.

Has anyone calculated the mean value for the CDs of AR and KsP because of RB?

Depends on when you use em & your haste. Let's say you regen 13 energy per second (5%ish haste) & use KS after AR (which you should since you wanna get Deep Insight up before you KS). The remaining cooldown on KS after five 5-point eviscerates would be:

(39energy)*(5 SS)*(5 evis) + (10 energy per evis)*(5) = 1025 total energy
1025 energy / 13 energy per sec = 78.85 seconds

So in that 79 second time frame, you have reduced the CD of KS by 50 seconds, meaning it's up again & you have a 79 second cooldown. In this situation I would keep the last set of 5 CP's and wait to use my 5th evis until after it comes off of cooldown, as you only have to wait 1 second.

Also I didn't factor in combat potency procs because it's late and I don't even want to try and work that math out. Epic geared rogues also have a lot more haste than that. Let's just say the cooldown is around 60-70 seconds as long as you have 100% uptime. Not being on your target & being able to use all your energy increases the CD.

At current EP values (pre-4.0.6 mastery buff), [Belt of the Fallen Brood] is 27.45 EP ahead of [Dispersing Belt]. This gap is expected to increase.

edit: grammars.

Ignoring [Wind Stalker Leggings],
I would prefer [Wind Dancer's Legguards] and [Membrane of C'Thun] (with 4.06)

One question, one comment.
What's the EP value of Str in Combat? I believe I saw something that weights it about 1.05, can anyone confirm that as roughly accurate?
Through sheer lack of anyone else in the group being able to use it, I ended up with the [Right Eye of Rajh], as my second trinket is currently fairly mediocre [Grace of the Herald], I'm trying to value whether it's worth going ahead and using it rather then Grace. If my number is accurate, the value of Str, appears to be enough above Crit to allow me to take advantage of the Hit and reforge/re-enchant items to haste for an overall improvement until I get the [Left Eye of Rajh] to drop, or another upgrade becomes available. If it's value is lower then Crit, then calculating it is a bit more difficult, and may not be the no brainer it seems.

With the current Meta requirements in place until the changes go live, I'm finding [Lightning Dream Emerald] to be the best choice to satisfy the requirement to activate a Relentless Earthseige for my Yellow and Blue slots. The gems list to use in Blue or Yellow slots, will screw you when attempting to get your Meta live as it will count them as Reds


Edit: added gem link

Thank you

I can see the Thundering, and considered the Destructive, but I can't see the Fleet, that makes no sense with Mastery , in Combat, being my lowest value stat. Again, as it stands now, understand that a change is coming. What's would be the valuation concept behing using Fleet?