Rawr.Rogue

Fesura · 03/21/11, 3:20 AM

Rawr.Rogue is back for Cataclysm!

I have been developing Rawr.Rogue since release 2.3.9 and did a complete rewrite of the old module. The new version is based on Rawr.Cat.

Where to find Rawr4:
Standalone version
Browser version

General info:
The module assumes a tank and spank boss without movement, this means that talents like Quickening do not add to your damage output where they will do so in a lot of real fights.

Settings:
Changing the rotation settings on the settings tab only changes the custom rotation DPS displayed on the main tab. The number displayed at the bottom is the optimal DPS, which won't change by changing these settings.

Known bugs:
Expertise is valued too low for Combat.

Assassination:
Status: Fully functional

Combat:
Status: Fully functional

Sublety:
Status: Almost functional. HaT is assumed to proc on CD which overvalues it and Ambush has not been modeled yet.

If you have any problems with or questions about Rawr.Rogue please post them here or create a Discussion or Issue on Rawr.
Make sure you include the char file of your Rogue, if you can't attach it here please create an issue on Rawr.

Eunos · 03/21/11, 6:44 AM

The tooltip for "Tricks of the Trade (glyphed)" in Temp Power Buffs reports a 15% damage buff with a 10 second duration, rather than the current 10% / 6 second. It seems to model that way as well.

Fesura · 03/21/11, 7:24 AM

Originally Posted by Eunos

The tooltip for "Tricks of the Trade (glyphed)" in Temp Power Buffs reports a 15% damage buff with a 10 second duration, rather than the current 10% / 6 second. It seems to model that way as well.

Fixed in next release.

sp00n · 03/21/11, 8:01 AM

It doesn't catch [Dragonscale Leg Armor] (LW specific leg enchant). Well it does when importing the gear, but when hitting optimize it complains and doesn't add any leg enchant in the optimized list.
It also doesn't recognize the Landslide weapon enchant for optimization, it's replaced with Hurricane.

Maybe also due to these two bugs, my optimized DPS is worse than my current DPS.

Fesura · 03/21/11, 9:03 AM

Originally Posted by sp00n

It doesn't catch [Dragonscale Leg Armor] (LW specific leg enchant). Well it does when importing the gear, but when hitting optimize it complains and doesn't add any leg enchant in the optimized list.
It also doesn't recognize the Landslide weapon enchant for optimization, it's replaced with Hurricane.

I don't have either issue in the dev version, are you using the online or standalone version?

sp00n · 03/21/11, 9:52 AM

Originally Posted by Fesura

I don't have either issue in the dev version, are you using the online or standalone version?

Just tested the standalone version, the described behaviour is in both versions you linked in your OP.
However, after actually reading the message (...) it tells me that I just haven't selected the enchant to be available to the optimizer.
Still, it should be selected automatically methinks.

Well then. The reforger tells me to completely ignore expertise as a combat rogue, and go for hit and haste. It wants me to reforge to the poison hit cap. Which just doesn't seem right.

Jodou · 03/21/11, 11:13 AM

Under the optimizer tool, I ran the 'Build Upgrade List' with zero thoroughness and it appears the results for Main Hand and Off-Hand are reversed. I get top upgrades that are clearly for OH in my MH list and vice-versa. This was using the browser version.

Fesura · 03/21/11, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by sp00n

Just tested the standalone version, the described behaviour is in both versions you linked in your OP.
However, after actually reading the message (...) it tells me that I just haven't selected the enchant to be available to the optimizer.
Still, it should be selected automatically methinks.

It should indeed be selected automatically and when I tested it that was the case 5 out of 6 times. Still, I also got the problem once, the first time I loaded your char on the standalone release version. I'm going to check with other devs regarding this issue, I'm not sure what's causing it.

vruva · 03/21/11, 3:36 PM

Hello and thanks for developing the rogue module of rawr you are doing a great job.
Like Jodou running the standalone version, the optimizer proposes that I should swap Uhn'agh Fash, the Darkest Betrayal to MH and Organic Lifeform Inverter to OH. Also it breaks the t11 4p bonus with Poison protocol Pauldrons, which ofc would be better than Wind dancer's Spaulders if it wasn't for the tier bonus.

05K4R · 03/21/11, 6:34 PM

Originally Posted by vruva

Hello and thanks for developing the rogue module of rawr you are doing a great job.
Like Jodou running the standalone version, the optimizer proposes that I should swap Uhn'agh Fash, the Darkest Betrayal to MH and Organic Lifeform Inverter to OH. Also it breaks the t11 4p bonus with Poison protocol Pauldrons, which ofc would be better than Wind dancer's Spaulders if it wasn't for the tier bonus.

None of the T11 set bonuses seems to be implemented. I did some tests where I changed the stats on another item to the same as the T11 item, and then only equipped so I had one T11 piece. Rawr valued them the same, so it didn't value the T11 set bonus at all. It's not showing up on the buff-frame either.
I have submitted an issue ticket on Rawr's page at Codeplex.

glundnakas · 03/22/11, 8:11 AM

I just tried the standalone-version and everything looked quite fine until i watched on my 2nd Trinket Slot.
Rawr tells my to change my "Fluid Death" Trinket in almost any kind of Strength-Trinket out there.

License to Slay has about 500 Points more then Fluid Death and it seems like the only reason for that is that it proccs Strength and not Agility. Especially because Rawr is reforging the Hit on License to Slay into mastery as i did on my Fluid Death.

Fesura · 03/23/11, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by 05K4R

None of the T11 set bonuses seems to be implemented.

Fixed in next release.

Fesura · 03/24/11, 3:39 AM

Originally Posted by glundnakas

Rawr tells my to change my "Fluid Death" Trinket in almost any kind of Strength-Trinket out there.

Strength procs are providing 2 AP per point and Agi only 1, this has been fixed for the next release.

Fesura · 03/24/11, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by sp00n

Well then. The reforger tells me to completely ignore expertise as a combat rogue, and go for hit and haste. It wants me to reforge to the poison hit cap. Which just doesn't seem right.

Please post the char file with which you see this issue, you're Assassination on the armory and buffs etc might affect it as well.

sp00n · 03/25/11, 7:00 AM

Originally Posted by Fesura

Please post the char file with which you see this issue, you're Assassination on the armory and buffs etc might affect it as well.

Yeah, I switch around a lot due to the various hard mode fights. I don't like the current playstyle of Combat, but it simply has some edges on various fights.
Anyway, I'm specced to it right now again. I didn't change any settings in buffs/etc, only selected to optimize for DPS rating, and it's still showing me to go for 1102 hit and only 480 expertise.

I've attached both character files, pre and post optimization.

Also, I'm having problems with Firefox4, Rawr (the Silverlight plugin) crashes when trying to use the optimizer.