Cataclysm 4.2.x Raid Mechanics - Page 11

Moritsume · 08/01/11, 1:49 PM

I don't think I've seen this mentioned yet, but does Dark Intent's +3% periodic damage buff affect our 2pc Burning Wounds dot?

My raid doesn't have the top choices for it judging from the warlocks forum (shadow/balance/fire) so it would come down to our arcane/ret /holy priest/me (mutilate).

Edit: Had the warlocks portion of the buff and the recipients % confused.

liftir · 08/01/11, 5:25 PM

Dark Intent is only 3% periodic damage for the person the Warlock puts the buff on.

Stillblade · 08/01/11, 7:01 PM

Originally Posted by Moritsume

I don't think I've seen this mentioned yet, but does Dark Intent's +9% periodic damage buff affect our 2pc Burning Wounds dot?

My raid doesn't have the top choices for it judging from the warlocks forum (shadow/balance/fire) so it would come down to our arcane/ret /holy priest/me (mutilate).

Right after shadow,balance and fire, I believe it would be feral druids survival hunters then assassination rogues

Slider187 · 08/03/11, 7:13 AM

After several trys yesterday with the Alt-Group of my Guild on Majo NHC when i was staying in the Pincer Spot to stop Parrys my Autoattacks stopped and my DPS dropped to 15k.

Anyone else got to see that Phenomenon?

Fnar · 08/03/11, 7:51 AM

Originally Posted by Slider187

After several trys yesterday with the Alt-Group of my Guild on Majo NHC when i was staying in the Pincer Spot to stop Parrys my Autoattacks stopped and my DPS dropped to 15k.

Anyone else got to see that Phenomenon?

Yes this was mentioned earlier in the thread. Seemingly either the sweet spot where one can soak cleaves, not be parried and still autoattack is rather narrow - or there is a narrow corridor within the +cleave-parry zone where autoattacks don't work . Having not tried it myself I'm not able to say if this can be resolved by just strafing a little one way and then a little to the other, if this auto attack deadzone is persistent or intermittent or anything else useful for that matter, but the behaviour has been observed and any further observations would be much appreciated (as would a solution).

jtstormrage · 08/03/11, 8:00 AM

I have read in a few places that you can Feint the damage from the Crystal Shards on Baleroc.

I have not tried this personally (yet) but can anyone confirm this?

If so, obviously this makes Enveloping Shadows very powerful.

Slider187 · 08/03/11, 8:57 AM

Originally Posted by Fnar

Yes this was mentioned earlier in the thread. Seemingly either the sweet spot where one can soak cleaves, not be parried and still autoattack is rather narrow - or there is a narrow corridor within the +cleave-parry zone where autoattacks don't work . Having not tried it myself I'm not able to say if this can be resolved by just strafing a little one way and then a little to the other, if this auto attack deadzone is persistent or intermittent or anything else useful for that matter, but the behaviour has been observed and any further observations would be much appreciated (as would a solution).

For myself I handled it that way with just running into Cleave Area and then again behind him capping sometimes during AR but i could live with the Kill and the new Trinket i got.

sp00n · 08/03/11, 9:17 AM

Originally Posted by jtstormrage

I have read in a few places that you can Feint the damage from the Crystal Shards on Baleroc.

I have not tried this personally (yet) but can anyone confirm this?

If so, obviously this makes Enveloping Shadows very powerful.

Feint doesn't work. Neither does Enveloping Shadows from the logs I skimmed through (average damage is always around 19k per tick for Combat/Mutilate/Sub).

Synek · 08/03/11, 11:05 AM

Regarding Baleroc crystals, Cheat Death should prove effective here (and for Baleroc tanking after the enrage incase he sneaks a hit past Evasion).

Errad · 08/03/11, 4:52 PM

I am not quite sure if this is exploit or not, but it does certainly decrease the difficulty of the Alysrazor-encounter in terms of interrupting: Link .
We don't even need Glyph of Kick anymore, since we don't have CD on Deadly throw. I, for one, like to start the interrupt with kick, meanwhile it is possible to do an 5 cp eviscerate. The next interrupt is done with Deadly Throw, and the add basically dies without the need of a third interrupt.
The only problem with this method is that we have to spend at least one CP on the interrupt.

eylieen · 08/04/11, 1:51 AM

I mentioned this earlier, but it's completely possible to solo the interupts on the Alysrazor adds even without the glyph of kick (tbh I forgot all about it and can see how the glyph would make it even easier, but regardless) if you kick the fieroblast right as it begins casting your 10sec kick will be ready by the end of the next fieroblast (with two brushfires between) and you can catch the cast right as it's about to finish. Again, trivial with glyph of kick, which I'll start using (thanks for the reminder), but completely doable without.

Artoxia · 08/04/11, 8:25 AM

Originally Posted by eylieen

if you kick the fieroblast right as it begins casting your 10sec kick will be ready by the end of the next fieroblast (with two brushfires between) and you can catch the cast right as it's about to finish.

Do they always cast two brushfires inbetween? Just got the first kill last id, but im quite sure i saw them casting a new fireblast after just one brushfire.

dazed420 · 08/04/11, 9:16 AM

In 25 hm they can cast blast after one brush

Ayliex · 08/04/11, 9:34 AM

Originally Posted by dazed420

In 25 hm they can cast blast after one brush

It may be related to interrupt lockout duration. When we have two rogues interrupting one add, it's consistently two brushfires between fieroblasts. Our other interrupters often get only one brushfire.

xmod2 · 08/04/11, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Ayliex

It may be related to interrupt lockout duration. When we have two rogues interrupting one add, it's consistently two brushfires between fieroblasts. Our other interrupters often get only one brushfire.

I have the exact opposite experience. Two rogues on the adds (normal) and we get Fieroblast / Brushfire alternating every other one. Every once in a while we'll get two brushfires in a row, but they are definitely the outliers (maybe once per kill?).

We also don't kick immediately and just let them get further than 50% of their cast though. This is 25 man.