Most likely the other high damage rogues are not on add duty, increasing DPS time. I'd check the amounts of damage done to the slimes - if it's close to negliable, they're just beating up the boss and cleaving the black adds.

Due to our ramp up time, non-sub rogues are usually a very poor choice for slime damage on Yorsahj. Ideally we should stay on the boss, and the other classes can handle slime. If they can't quite manage it, try sending your tank out to kill slimes as well, as the boss is inactive while slimes are up.

If, on the other hand, you MUST go kill slimes, make sure to either make use of Redirect every time, or just wait until Deep Insight falls off before sprinting to the add. Since you'll only have redirect from the boss to the slime, and not the other way around, use any remaining combo points from dpsing the slime to refresh your SnD. And make sure BF is up to cleave the adds.


Edited for clarification.

Actually it's probably better to use redirect from the slime to the boss. Slimes die rather quickly so usually it's waste to redirect to them (unless you are having difficulties getting them down in time but that really can't be a problem if you have enough dps to down the boss and dps focus on right targets) so it gives better results to redirect from the slime to the boss.

That is, for Combat and Mutilate. Subtlety outperforms every spec on the slimes since you have shadowdance up for every slime. If you have trouble killing them, this should work best, you won't be doing any real damage to the adds anyway and singletarget dps on the boss is pretty high, even without shadowdancing him.

Looking at my last couple kills, where I help kill every slime, I manage about 40k average(25k low end, about 75k during BF w/CD's). We don't have a bleed buff, so I use a ruptureless cycle. When I sprint to the slime, I make sure I have a good SnD up, or atleast some CP's so I can refresh it on the way. I will then dps it down, usually getting a couple Evisc in, build up a few more CP and it will die, where I then redirect those CP's onto the boss where I can continue building Insight up. During Forgotten Ones phases, I wait till they make it into the group, and only then will I turn on BF, cleaving off the boss. Once the first group dies, I turn it back off until the 2nd group of Forgotten Ones spawn and move into the group to be killed in the same fashion.

Overall, our 10 man raid does about 275-300k average DPS over the duration of the fight.

Adding to the last couple of replies, I push 42k while on globule (bitch) duty. My best advice to maximize output is to build 5 CP on Yor'sahj then using (glyphed) Sprint the exact moment he starts summoning, Redirect onto the glob and going flat out. This way your Redirect will refresh a couple seconds before the glob dies, enabling you to transfer Deep Insight over to
Yor'sahj.

Expanding on this, while your attacks can still be dodged this effectively halves the value of expertise, making it beneficial to reforge away from expertise for this fight.

No it doesn't, the value of expertise is calculated by expecting you to be standing behind the boss, i.e. no parries at all already.

The only things I can think of for this are the T12 2pc, and speccing sub w/ hemo glyph - so just throw up a hemo+rupture as you run past the crystal.

Yeah thats definately something I thought about doing. lots of utility for the snowflake issue also being able to shadowstep to the crystals would be excellent... it seems to be a major factor in how much dps our feral and warrior are able to do because they have so much time on target.

Hello, i got 2 questions:

My guild is at Hagara HC.
I think im gonna change my "Wrath of Unchaining" (LFR) trinket with "Kyroptyric Sigil" since its a very bursty fight, and the WoU stacks tends to fall of during phases. What would you suggest?

Im usually combat, only use sub for Morchok, but i believe sub would be better for Hagara, due to the burst and Insight not being high when it matters. Combat is good for cleaving the tombs tho. What spec are you using?

I didn't see this posted anywhere yet, but you can shadowstep through the icewave on hagara, which I found very useful on heroic. It allowed me to stay on the crystal and increase dps time. You must be sure, however, that the icewave is clear of the crystal or you'll bite the dust.