Cataclysm 4.3.x Raid Mechanics - Page 4

xmod2 · 12/01/11, 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by dazed420

Ultraxion, looking for confirmation from someone that feint does in fact work for hour. Tried it and never lived through it.

Will do 150k damage with feint. We had DG up on each time and I took 130k.

Normal mode also doesn't seem to give you a debuff so essentially you can stay in as many times as needed on normal mode.

MikeJ714 · 12/01/11, 2:22 AM

Be warned - I'm getting reports that during Madness, on at least the Green platform, you're unable to Shadowstep on the boss. He hasn't tried anything else, and Killing Spree seems to be working ok.

Also, Blue -was- able to be Shadowstepped.

Chult86 · 12/01/11, 3:15 AM

I don't see how Sub is better than Combat for Madness at all. You can cleave Burning Tendrils and hit the Tentacle. You can cleave the tendrils in p2, and you can cleave off of Deathwing onto the bigger adds as well. Also, having more Redirects is huge for the Meteor and swapping back to the tentacle.

MikeJ714 · 12/01/11, 3:31 AM

Wasn't really the point to discuss if Subt was better or not.

Pathal · 12/01/11, 3:38 AM

I died on, I believe, Nozdormu's platform from Shadowstep earlier too. Looks like the side platforms are safe but not the center ones?

sinnaa · 12/01/11, 6:32 AM

Updated through to here. Keep the info coming and I will keep the updates happening. If you notice something is wrong or not listed, please add your thoughts. There may just be little to say about zozz and yor, because I can't really think of anything else that is important to say.

Brotherbear · 12/01/11, 10:33 AM

Just a heads up for Ultraxion. If you change specs during his monologue you lose access to the survival button.

I've been starting fights as Assassination, hitting Vendetta, and then hopping over to combat (usually buys me about 10-20 seconds of the Vendetta buff) but if you do that here, you'll just die horribly on Fading Light.

Even using the /click ExtraActionButton1 macro fails since it appears the button is just no longer in existence.

EDIT: I'd also like to mention that your timing to cloak Hour doesn't have to be terribly precise. On an early attempt Recount was killing my FPS, so I hit Cloak with about 1-3 seconds left until Hour and I was able to completely resist it. I didn't try cloaking Fading Light however,

Whistles · 12/01/11, 10:40 AM

Clarifying that on Madness of Deathwing you can't use Killing Spree on the Mutated Corruptions (it just won't let you) but everything else in the fight is fine. Also the Elementium Bolt damage is Cloak resistable and not just immunable which is a pleasant change from previous tiers.

kindath · 12/01/11, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by sinnaa

Madness of Deathwing
-You cannot attack the hands from the back, you must be in front of them.

Not sure what you mean by this. I was able to garrote and backstab the Deathwing's tendrils and the corruption tentacle from pretty much every angle.

Looking through Skada, I also don't see any dodges with only 110 expertise. I could be wrong on that count, though.

Genjala · 12/01/11, 11:20 AM

Warlord Zon'Ozz (10man normal):
You can cloak the debuff (disrupting shadows) and it will do no dmg, but still knock you back.
You can cloak the aoe and be immune ~

Hokahey · 12/01/11, 4:25 PM

I noticed on Madness of Deathwing fight. *at least on combat logs*

I'm getting about 1% or less misses. Might be similar to Ultraxion?

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

• Aldriana · 12/01/11, 4:37 PM

As far as I know, Ultraxion gets missed normally. However, on Madness of Deathwing it does appear to be the major targets of the fight - the Arm and Wing tentacles, the Mutated Corruptions, and Deathwing himself - cannot be missed, while the other targets of the fight can be.

Its also worth noting that the arm/wing tentacles, unlike Ultraxion, can be Backstabbed.

Nerio · 12/01/11, 6:10 PM

Originally Posted by sinnaa

-Can Killing spree the tendons
-Can shadowstep the tendons, but doing so teleports you to the rear of his back

Interestingly enough, I was teleported to the rear of his back at the end of a killing spree on tuesday. Has anyone experienced this?

Crazed · 12/01/11, 6:21 PM

Originally Posted by Nerio

Interestingly enough, I was teleported to the rear of his back at the end of a killing spree on tuesday. Has anyone experienced this?

Confirmed, I had this happen to me today on the third armor plate. It teleported me to the back as well.

MikeJ714 · 12/01/11, 6:42 PM

Did you guys have any additional adds up? I was able to KS the tendons without any issue, though my KS at one point did teleport me to a blood towards the back.