Mists of Pandaria 5.0.x Raid Mechanics - Page 10

rayanne · 12/18/12, 1:29 PM

I am not finding any success with the Symbiosis-Growl taunt and the Amber Monstrosity in Heroic Amber Shaper. Has anyone else successfully taunted (and then tanked ) the monstrosity during the tank Fling?

Seliathan · 12/18/12, 7:49 PM

The taunt-portion from the symbioses growl has never worked for me in a raid environment, and scarcely in 5man heroics. As far as 25man raids go, having three tanks makes it quite easy to handle the fling by having the tank of the Amber-Shaper build some aggro on the monstrosity aswell to ensure that it runs after him when the monstrosity tank gets flinged.

Rosvall · 12/21/12, 11:22 AM

Btw, taking holiday off, so new info will not be updated until ~after new years.

Happy hunting

metzli · 12/23/12, 12:07 PM

I can also confirm that the 3 second taunt part of growl does not actually work in 10 mans. The threat gain seems to work, as I never have any problem at all staying second on threat. Gaining almost 100k hp and some physical damage resistance is pretty useful even if you don't need to taunt though.

nordveien · 12/24/12, 5:45 PM

Protectors of the Endless: Lightning Prison debuff can be cloaked (before you get stunned).

phantom57 · 01/06/13, 2:13 PM

About leeching poison. There are some fights where you dont get instant tons of damage, but you are often getting minor ticks. So the healers would aprecciate not distracting on this if tank not well geared. On one of last fights on sha of fear (sadly, normal) i healed 52% of incoming damage as we had problems with healers mana. So if there is what to soak by target - its elusiveness, but if you dont know what to take or are aiming for dps - i'd take leeching.

Now due to healers better geared i cant provide such cool numbers, but if needed can do about 40 probably =)

metzli · 01/06/13, 4:37 PM

Also keep in mind leeching scales with your dps. So in circumstances like heroic wind lord you do quite a bit of healing to yourself during the burn. Usually you aren't really taking any damage either, but just a thought experiment.

metzli · 01/07/13, 4:26 AM

Every CC we have except blind works on Fright spawns and unstable shas on heroic Tsulong. So gouge away (extra interrupt for fears / unstable bolts as needed). IE Dirty tricks is actually pretty useful.

Druss · 01/14/13, 7:19 AM

In case anyone else was wondering I have been experimenting with [Restorative Amber] macroed with Vanish. It works a treat in regular encounters when you are in trouble and want to vanish and heal while immune but doesn't (unfortunately) work to avoid mechanics like Attenuation in either the normal or heroic versions of that fight. A shame as this would have been nice in the final phases of that fight where it all gets a bit hectic. Nor does it prevent falling damage.

Enzo90910 · 01/14/13, 8:20 AM

Anybody sucessful tanking during each Fling on P2 H-Un'Sok? How did you manage to guarantee being at the top of the Threat table? Is Feint+Elusiveness usually enough to survive the Fling? If not how did you manage it after using your CDs (glyphed CoS, Evasion)?

metzli · 01/14/13, 8:32 AM

I always have threat just from raw threat (the rest of the raid just stays on the tank in construct or adds), but I use growl for the crit reduction, and that is usually plenty to make me healable while tanking. Evasion + combat rediness works pretty well if you don't have symbiosis.

Maleficius · 01/15/13, 1:56 AM

I did not see this posted anywhere in this thread, but I tried it out successfully tonight:

Wind Lord Mel'jarak
- You can cloak immune amber prison and prevent yourself from getting imprisoned if it is cast on you. DBM alerts you approximately 3 seconds before the prison hits you and if you time the immune portion correctly you can prevent the prison. I am pretty certain only the immune portion will work and not the full CoS 5 sec protection. I am not certain if the same will be true if someone near you is imprisoned and you are within the range effect, but if you are spacing is correct this should not be a problem.

I will admit that I am not the best at timing for cloak immunity with CoS, but I am pretty sure I was able to make this work on more than once occasion. Sorry no logs to confirm so hopefully someone can support my conclusion or tell me if I am wrong and just got lucky.

nordveien · 01/15/13, 11:04 AM

I believe you can also Killing Spree-immune amber prison as Combat. If you are KSing at the moment amber prison is being put on you, you don't get it. The timing is also good for the very first cast of amber prison, it's being cast a few seconds after the fight starts.

Knarcus · 01/16/13, 2:56 AM

Originally Posted by nordveien

I believe you can also Killing Spree-immune amber prison as Combat. If you are KSing at the moment amber prison is being put on you, you don't get it. The timing is also good for the very first cast of amber prison, it's being cast a few seconds after the fight starts.

Do other melee players get trapped instead of you because you teleport on top of them?

Hamsda · 01/16/13, 4:33 AM

Originally Posted by Knarcus

Do other melee players instead of you because you teleport on top of them?

Many boss abilities can target you while in Killing Spree but won't affect you. It's very easy to spot when Zor'lok uses Exhale while a rogue is in Killing Spree and no one gets the debuff