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Old 02/15/13, 5:28 AM   #166
Enzo90910
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Temple Noir (EU)
Juste learnt that while browsing forums, it seems worth mentioning: on Zor'Lok, keep Smoke Bomb on Cooldown on plateform 3 and P2, otherwise the mind-control will blow the smoke and may prevent many heals (I never had this happen to me personally, because our guild decided to switch out all melee on Heroic Zor'Lok anyway).

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Old 02/22/13, 1:10 AM   #167
tito149
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Heroic Lei Shi

I know 5.2 is on our doorstep, so this is probably a concern of the past for most, but it seems like it would be ideal to reforge out of expertise for Heroic Lei Shi because the boss is just casting the whole fight... I am not seeing dodges in the the parses out there, or am I missing something?

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Old 02/25/13, 9:13 PM   #168
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On Lei Shen, the thunderstrike in phase one can be cloaked.

Also, the lightning puddles on the ground that spawn adds can also be cloaked, which will prevent an add from spawning. (Phase 2/transition phase)

And, Static shock can be cloaked too, which will once again negate the ability.

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Old 02/25/13, 9:29 PM   #169
Keorics
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Originally Posted by tito149 View Post
I know 5.2 is on our doorstep, so this is probably a concern of the past for most, but it seems like it would be ideal to reforge out of expertise for Heroic Lei Shi because the boss is just casting the whole fight... I am not seeing dodges in the the parses out there, or am I missing something?
Not true. He melees, not casts. There are only a few abilities he ever casts.

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Old 02/26/13, 5:08 PM   #170
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Originally Posted by Keorics View Post
Not true. He melees, not casts. There are only a few abilities he ever casts.
From Icy Veins ...

Lei Shi does not perform melee attacks. Instead, she constantly spams Spray at her current target. This deals a large amount of Frost damage to that player and all players within 2.5 yards, and adds a stacking debuff to all affected players, which increases Frost damage taken by 16% per stack, for 10 seconds.
You are perhaps thinking of someone else? Maybe Lei Shen?

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Old 02/27/13, 10:40 AM   #171
bromli
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Lei Shen is a 5.2 boss. Lei Shi (current tier) never melees, but the adds do. None of which even matters for reforging, as expertise effects our own melee swings, not the boss's. Parry haste went away a few years back.

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Old 02/27/13, 10:51 AM   #172
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The current discussion has nothing to do with parry haste but with the fact that a casting enemy can't dodge your attacks, therefor one could reforge out of every bit of expertise and still hit every attack on Lei Shi. There have been some bosses in previous tiers where this is also true, but I can't remember them off the top of my hat.

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Old 02/27/13, 4:48 PM   #173
tito149
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Originally Posted by Hamsda View Post
The current discussion has nothing to do with parry haste but with the fact that a casting enemy can't dodge your attacks, therefor one could reforge out of every bit of expertise and still hit every attack on Lei Shi. There have been some bosses in previous tiers where this is also true, but I can't remember them off the top of my hat.
Yes, this is what I was after. For example, back when my guild did heroic Spine of Deathwing progression, myself and our other melee reforged out of expertise because the tendons couldn't dodge, so hey, why not reforge into other secondary stats.

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Old 03/02/13, 4:28 PM   #174
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I do not play the game anymore, but can still keep this updated. However, it would be really useful if you could post the 5.2 information in the correct thread. (Mists of Pandaria 5.2.x Raid Mechanics)

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