I don't believe Combat Readiness is actually working on Heroic Blade Lord's Unseen Strike. I have not tested this on normal mode.

Some entries from a 25m Heroic Blade Lord on 11/18/2012





Edit: The room-wide AoE in phase 2 is cloak-immunable but not cloak-resistable.

Thanks for this information. Unless we get someone else confirming that it actually works, it won't be put up. A log segment where cloak is used in either way would also be sufficient.

The debuff does physical damage and can be removed by Hand of Protection so I honestly cannot imagine that cloak would remove it, but couldn't test it yesterday unfortunately.

From the Simple Answers thread:

This seems like misinformation to me, but I just wanted to confirm that it is wrong due to:

1. The Weak Points buff gained from standing in the circles only increasing damage done to the legs, not the body.
2. Secondary damage from Blade Flurry being less than damage to the primary target, meaning you are only applying the 100% boost to the lesser source of your damage (if that even?).
3. Having the rest of the raid focusing on the body to apply their debuffs, while ignoring the legs and losing the Week Points damage boost from everyone else in the raid.

Am I missing something? It still seems like the raid should focus on making the most of the Weak Points buff as much as possible.

The only reason at this point for rogues to be the sole "leg cleavers" is if you're a rogue and can con your raid into letting you do it for meters. We no longer are able to abuse the weak points debuff any more than anyone else, and since the legs have a time-based respawn they should really just be looked at as an extra amount of hp to be removed in a timely fashion however possible.

That said, it's been said several times now that the behavior as described by blue posts is not actually working. Whereas before if you cleaved from the leg to the boss both got the 100% extra damage, now if you cleave from the boss to the leg, nothing gets the extra damage. Go look through logs if you need to, but these are numbers from my kill last week when I had the weak points buff on me:
[23:09:12.648] Viper Eviscerate Garalon 97450
[23:09:13.425] Viper Blade Flurry Garalon's Leg 89774

The leg was presumably missing several debuffs, hence the lower damage. Of course, if Weak Points were applied properly it should've been nearly double the Garalon damage. So until that bug is fixed, you should probably still be cleaving from the leg to the boss.

Sorry for the controversy earlier of posting something not directly related to rogues. I wouldn't normally post something like that, but I felt that dealing with the debuff was a large portion of the heroic encounter, and being able to remove it can be crucial for the healers. Even though it wasn't something we (rogues) SHOULD be dealing with in that fight, I figured it was worth noting. I guess I assumed that if it worked for druids it would work for rogues, in the same way everyone above assumes the opposite!

Anyway, I can confirm that it works for boomkins. I do not know why it doesn't work for us--I think I only got hit with it once during our attempts, and I died before I could test it out.

From log:

Seeing as it doesn't work for us, and only works for druids, I apologize and it shouldn't have been included in this thread.

Don't be so harsh on yourself

However in the future (I updated this in the original post as well) if people has a theory or something that they think worked, feel free to post it. However please state in the post that it is indeed a theory.

Seems to me its still better for the rogue to be on the legs with everyone else on the boss. If the rogue can cleave the legs down (along with maybe one other person) and cause the 3% damage to the boss for the leg's death and keep up with the rate the legs respawn, then the rest of the dps can stay on the boss and the rogue creates extra cleave damage that would not otherwise exist if the other dps switched and killed the legs faster. It's not as omgwtfrape as it was before the nerf, but it's still a net gain for the raid as a whole for the rogue to gain that cleave damage.


It's not meter hogging for the rogue to do this, it's a net gain for the raid. It's actually meter hogging for other dps to be trying to single target dps the legs for that 100% damage buff to make themselves look higher, when in actuality it's wasted dps they could have applied to the boss since the cleave would have killed those legs anyways.

Did anyone try Killing Spree during Devastating Combo when frontal arc is coming? Would it lead to being hit?

UPD: tried it in LFR and got hit. Frontal Arc was the last ability in the Combo, so it was the one that hit me.

I have tried it. The frontal arc would not hit you, but the other strikes will, KS simply lasts too long.

Details for Xcase - 25-11 20:09 - Impact - World of Logs

How is this guy spree-ing? His raid took 12 crushes in a 6:40 fight, and he didn't just do it as the boss was dying, since he had 28 MH KS strikes. I tried KS during the normal crush on LFR and got stomped. Perhaps he's just timing it with the kiters passing pheromones, and they pass it right after he triggers the crush?