Always use a slow MH as combat. Askmrrobot doesn't tell you this, because the entered presets for stat weights are way too low for the MH speed. It's value is set to 5, but when editing the weights you should try 250 instead and it will show better results. Keep in mind though that some ilvl 463 blue 2.6 speed weapons might be better than horseman's sword, because it has really low agility.

The advantage of a fast OH is more poison damage. The advantage of a slow OH is bigger Killing Sprees. As it turns out, averaged over the course of a fight, the Killing Sprees tend to be worth a bit more damage, as poison is not a major component of Combat's DPS.

Appreciate the response! So really its a very small difference, and the itemization stats on the weapon are probably more important.

Thanks again.

So on a fight like Garalon, where you can't KS, you should just switch to a fast OH, right? Provided, of course, that's it's equal in ilvl and all that.

What you should always keep in mind when comparing slow to fast offhands in addition to their ilvl are the secondary stats involved on the items. Even if you can't use KS throughout the encounter your slow OH might be better if it got something like exp/haste instead of mastery/crit as base stats. In general the fast OH should be better though.

This also gives an indirect answer to the question of Knarcus, because when swapping OHs infight you should be aware of losing/gaining hit or expertise doing so, which may put you way below or above your desired caps for those stats.

Garalon Question:

They have "fixed"/nerfed our cleave damage so that attacking a leg does not now replicate 200% damage on the BF attack that hits the boss. This being the case is it now optimal to just attack the body at all times and activate BF to cleave off the body to the legs whilst in the circle by a leg? IE does doing this cause the BF attack that is triggered off the body hits to hit the leg for 200% because you are in the circle OR do you actually need to target the leg to do the 200% to it and are you unable to rely on securing 200% off BF cleave hits?

This could make a difference in that it helps avoid constant target swapping even if the non cleave damage we do isn't on a 200% damage taken target (i.e. all your non BF damage will be on the body only at base 100% damage done and it will only be a cleave portion of BF that MIGHT then be doing 200% to the leg - the question here is essentially "does the cleave portion of BF do 200% to a leg if you are in the circle but targetting the body?"). Also the body will be full debuffed (12% armor etc) whereas legs generally won't be. We could then really focus on rotation and hammer the body and just position ourselves to cleave the legs rather than constantly swapping to legs when they come up and back to the body in between.

Anyone tested this after the recent hotfix?

PS: to the poster above who says you can killing spree on Garalon - you can - just need to trigger it when the leg is just in range and body out of range. You need to be cautious but it can be done.

I've tested it yesterday and as far as I've seen, the BF damage on the leg is NOT doubled, so it's better to focus the leg. Of course this goes against what they've written in the Blue Post, but it wouldn't be the first time.

I personally found (as Assa) that keeping normal rotation up fielded better results than using CT. What I mean by this is rolling rupture and envenom, but using FoK as the combo point builder. I can't say that this is 'the' best rotation on this particularily heavy AOE encounter, but from my own observations it certainly performs better than just simply using FoK and CT. We'll be in that particular instance tonight so I will pm logs to you tommorow for you to take a look at.

Thing is you can't compare assa aoe with combat aoe really. FoK does a lot more dmg as assa as it does as combat. So this isn't really an option. Considering that combat has bf adds to that.
So the only aoe skill we can make useful is CT.

That being said i tested it in HoF yesterday and i didn't really see a difference. I tried to sim it but simcraft seems to crash everytime i add blade flurry to the actions list. :/

Hi there, i was wondering to change my race and i'm thinkin about what's the best race to change into.
So, i'm from Horde and i'm thinking about Orc or Pandaren.
Thinking in PVE, wich of this 2 is the best?

Ty

@Unomeme

Weak Aura would be an extremely good addon to track your envenom buff. There are other addons that are made only for rogues, and i recommend using Slice Admiral for the ease of use.

Ideally, you'd fit a mutilate right after an envenom. Which is around 80 energy.

With the extra cp generation and anticipation talent, cp/energy pooling shouldn't change much. General rule of thumb is never cap energy > never waste cp > envenom clipping.

For Garalon, you hit the target that has the debuffs that benefits you. Blizzard hotfixed the cleave damage off the legs to the body thus making it a "dps loss" to cleave off the legs.

There isn't a "max dps rotation" available. But i personally like to spread ruptures and FoK spam.

Hope this helps.