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Old 11/06/12, 9:16 AM   #1
Indz
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Dwarf Rogue
 
Blackmoore (EU)
ShadowCraft for Mists of Pandaria

Hi,
I have updated the Shadowcraft-UI to 5.0. Locally it's working quite well. Everything is working really good with the exception of reforging because I have no access to the reforge service. I made a Pull Request so hopefully he pulls the data over to update his server.

Some things I have to annotate for our Shadowcraft-Engine guys:
- Some parameters are having no effect on dps or ep values, e.g. envenom size worked last week, now no longer has any effect
- revealing strike pooling has no effect
- when the update is online it needs excessive testing to find possible bugs, i havn't catched yet

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Last edited by Indz : 03/06/13 at 6:43 AM.

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Old 11/06/12, 7:10 PM   #2
Antiarc
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Hey folks --

I've been detached from WoW (as you all can tell), but I got a PM today letting me know about the great work that Indz, Nextormento, Pathal, dazer, and others have been doing. I've updated the deploys on the Shadowcraft website, and I'm trying to determine if there's a working engine I can use - it's throwing errors right now that I'm not sure of the sources of.

That said, I'm working on putting it back together. To the folks that've been working on it, I'd love to chat with you guys about repo/server access, if you're interested, so that you all aren't stuck waiting on me to update things.

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Old 11/07/12, 4:10 PM   #3
Pathal
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Originally Posted by Indz View Post
Some things I have to annotate for our Shadowcraft-Engine guys:
- Some parameters are having no effect on dps or ep values, e.g. envenom size worked last week, now no longer has any effect
- revealing strike pooling has no effect
- when the update is online it needs excessive testing to find possible bugs, i havn't catched yet
Envenom sizes and rupture priority shouldn't have an impact when Anticipation is chosen, right now.
RvS pooling might be an issue with booleans vs strings?

Added to the list of known issues:
Error from Tini's reforger every time.
Trinkets are off, I haven't checked why yet.

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Old 11/07/12, 7:50 PM   #4
Tomate
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Personally after some testing I've encounter an issue with dps graph, it seems the history is not correctly reapply when you click on a point.

Anyways thanks for your work.

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Old 11/08/12, 5:45 AM   #5
Indz
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Originally Posted by Pathal View Post
Envenom sizes and rupture priority shouldn't have an impact when Anticipation is chosen, right now.
RvS pooling might be an issue with booleans vs strings?

Added to the list of known issues:
Error from Tini's reforger every time.
Trinkets are off, I haven't checked why yet.
- You are right, with redirect selected envom size change your dps, but rupture priority have no impact, i also testet with the command line import script and there is also no effect when changes the parameters.
- yeah reforge is actually not working, i have contacted tini, hopefully he can help us because his service is super fast and worked quite good in the past
- revealing strike pooling fixed, was a bug in the ui
- trinkets are now correctly ranked, was also a problem with ui

- sorry, I can't reproduce the bug with the history

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Old 11/08/12, 7:29 AM   #6
Tomate
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Cho'gall (EU)
I finally succeed to understand what is going on with the history.
It seems that the Stormlash Totem settings has some issue.
If you check it then uncheck it, then try to select the point on the graph corresponding to your dps with the totem it does not reapply it.

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Old 11/08/12, 8:30 PM   #7
tygo09
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Human Rogue
 
Shattered Halls
I was just wondering if haste weighs more on combat than mastery because shadow craft has mastery at 1.5 and haste at 1.32 but all the forums have haste at 1.5 and mastery at 1.22 so was just wondering which one was correct?

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Old 11/08/12, 8:37 PM   #8
• Aldriana
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EP, as always, depend on your gear. Hence, both are correct. It just depends on your assumptions.

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Old 11/08/12, 8:39 PM   #9
tygo09
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Looks like I'll go back to using shadow craft reforges then thanks.

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Old 11/09/12, 2:00 AM   #10
Newtype
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Burning Blade
Is Shadowcraft UI up and running again now?

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Old 11/09/12, 9:15 AM   #11
Slathe25
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Shadow Craft results?

Last night I ShadowCrafted my Assassination Rogue and for some reason when doing the calc for regemming it swaps out my 320 agi gems for 480 Mastery Fractured Serpent, and swapped out my delicate primordial Rubys for Adept Vermilion Onyx. I understand at some point 2 Mastery will overtake 1 agi, however I was under the idea this starts happening at upper Ilvls and not for someone still sporting blues with no set bonuses. My base dps SC showed was 70.9k before and after the regemming/reforging it dropped to 70.2k. Any ideas? I believe this maybe due to socket bonuses, however I would think that if it was prioritizing the socket bonuses, it would place the 320 agi gems in primordial sockets where no socket bonuses are applied or a concern. Also, the mastery being better than agi, is this due to diminishing returns?

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Old 11/09/12, 10:09 AM   #12
Kirtar88
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Orc Rogue
 
Blackmoore (EU)
Adding more mastery or agility increases the value of the other stat, because they "scale each other". So if for your ilvl the recommendation according to the SC stat weights was to favor mastery gems over agi gems, then this could also be true for only 1-2 gems, since changing those will shift your overall agility to mastery relation of your gear and thus boosting agility's value again compared to mastery. What you could do is change gems one by one and re-check the calculations after every step to get the new values.

By the way, the currently running shadowcraft UI shows SS > Ambush dps-wise for the opener with talented shadow focus for me. Could this be correct, because the BG stack might be more beneficial than ambush's extra dmg and CP?

Last edited by Kirtar88 : 11/09/12 at 10:17 AM.

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Old 11/09/12, 11:04 AM   #13
Wytryszek
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Old 11/09/12, 12:43 PM   #14
crystaline
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Proudmoore
Regemming is definitely bugged, my current EP values are Agi=2.69 and Mastery=1.08 however it still want to put a [Fractured Serpent's Eye] into a red socket over a [Delicate Serpent's Eye]. Which is obviously wrong as the JC-only gems don't even have a 2:1 ratio for Agi-to-secondary.


Also, gem recommendations currently require you to change from a Serpent's Eye to another gem in order to be able to switch the type of Serpent's Eye you have equipped if you already have Serpent's Eyes in your gear set.

Last edited by crystaline : 11/09/12 at 12:47 PM. Reason: Added info about gem recommendations

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Old 11/09/12, 1:27 PM   #15
timwoj
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Pandaren Rogue
 
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Aerie Peak
Is there any way you can make it so the Reforge window gets pinned to the top of the browser frame instead of the top of the page? It's annoying having to scroll up and down to do manual reforges.

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