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Old 11/09/12, 8:47 PM   #16
Icerslair
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Blackrock
i keep getting an error when i try click REFORGE.

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I presume the site still has no access to he reforge service?

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Old 11/13/12, 10:28 AM   #17
Shougeki
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Zenedar (EU)
Would it be possible to add the ability to lock enchants, reforges and gems as a feature? Would be handy for those of us who dont have enough gear for two specs and need to work the best reforges on mix and match gear.

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Old 11/14/12, 3:34 AM   #18
Honzu
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Human Rogue
 
Kel'Thuzad
Originally Posted by Shougeki View Post
Would it be possible to add the ability to lock enchants, reforges and gems as a feature? Would be handy for those of us who dont have enough gear for two specs and need to work the best reforges on mix and match gear.
If you want, askmrrobot can do this. Load up your character in both Shadowcraft and askmrrobot. Then just take the EP values from Shadowcraft and enter them into askmrrobot with the 'edit weights' option. Then click on the slots you want to lock (enchants, gems, gear, etc) and click optimize. I do this to exclude Dancing Steel while I have blue weps.

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Old 11/14/12, 4:33 AM   #19
snowman2050
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Tarren Mill (EU)
I am getting some odd results in regards to stat weights, it seems odd to me that Shadowcraft is placing 'crit' higher than both 'haste' and 'expertise' (for Ass at current gear level). Historically Shadowcraft was in line with current EP values hence why I have raised this for questioning, any thoughts?

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Old 11/14/12, 1:41 PM   #20
• Aldriana
Mike Tyson
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
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Haste and crit are actually very close in value for Assassination in the abstract. The main reason haste comes out ahead in BIS is because BIS includes Terror in the Mists, which gives you a large crit proc, which increases the relative value of haste. So at other gear levels, with other items equipped, the balance can tip the other way - if you have a lot of haste and/or haste procs, crit can pass haste in value.

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Old 11/14/12, 1:53 PM   #21
Boarson
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Undead Rogue
 
Kael'thas (EU)
Hi guys , good to see SC regaining some vitality

Is it a valid approach to use stat weights resulting of shadowcraft , and use them in askmrrobot ?
If it is : what value to use for MH Speed, OH Speed.... and is the physical hit corresponding to "yellow hit" ? (i guess it depends on my gear but...)

I know all speeds are normalized.... but as mrrobot ask for them , i'm unsure they are taken into account the right way.


(sorry English is not my native language)

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Old 11/15/12, 9:00 AM   #22
Indz
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Dwarf Rogue
 
Blackmoore (EU)
Hi there!

Want to give some more information:

Random items from scenarios are now included and can be loaded. Most of them are already imported due to users wearing them. The WoWhead tooltips are sometimes wrong, but in shadowcraft are the correct numbers, so the value of those items is correct.

Optimize Gems should now work much better, including the Jewelcrafter gems. There are some conditions where it's possible that it gems not optimal, e.g. for the Tomb Raiders Girdle it's possible that not the suggestion is the best option in combination with reforges. That propably because the socketbonus is 120 expertise. I havn't tested the Engineering helm much, so it's possible that other gems than the suggested ones are better.

Reforging is now working. Many many thanks to Tini who made an excellent job getting the reforge service up to date and working. I can say that it needed a lot of testing because there are other circumstances than in cata.

Please note that engineering is actually overvalued due to wrong numbers in the engine. It's set to 2880 but it's only 1920.

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Old 11/15/12, 11:16 AM   #23
Mos ah
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Human Rogue
 
Lightbringer
Good morning all,

I was hoping to get some suggestions regarding the Spreadsheet. I am unable to pull up my characters information. I receive the previously noted "A fatal error occured while loading this page". Curious enough though I can bring up a friends profile but my character does not come up. I am running Chrome as my browser. Any suggestions would be helpful.

Only issue I can come up with is that my character's name has the alternate "�*" (alt 161 to create) in Mosiah and not the normal "i".

Thank you.

Last edited by Mos ah : 11/15/12 at 11:21 AM.

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Old 11/15/12, 1:00 PM   #24
Haileaus
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Gorefiend
Sub seems a bit odd. its showing dps being significantly greater than combat with same gear/reforges but with an equal-ilvl dagger in the MH instead of a slow wep. Also EP of crit being quite high enough to cause suspicion, as there seems no reason why it would be so much more valuable for sub than for either of the two other specs. Then again I could be missing something.

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Old 11/15/12, 2:45 PM   #25
Pathal
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I can't really determine any conclusions based on two 3min samples of Sub. I have noticed that there's a tendency towards crit in SimC/Shadowcraft, but the only thing I can think would cause that isn't that crit is good, but that haste is worse than before, and mastery wasn't buffed enough.

If there are (several) Gara'jal logs you think are good, I can study them to try and find any mistakes I made in the backend, otherwise I just don't have enough data to diagnose any issues in the system.

Combat is losing track of a few CP's due to stacking AR/SB. This results in lost eviscerate damage, and lost AR/SB uptime. That said, it should have little impact on EP weights, and it's almost fixed.

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Old 11/15/12, 2:48 PM   #26
Mayunia
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Maelstrom
Hello everyone, good job on bringing back Shadowcraft.

I want to report a bug, using Mayunia @ Maelstrom - US - Shadowcraft

I loaded my char into Shadowcraft and then play a little with reforges, got an [Wrap of Instant Petrification] from normal 10 man last night but the page crashed while I tried to refresh from armory.

Researching a little I see there is no normal version on wowhead yet so probably that´s where the problem is because raid finder version shows without problem, however I can´t get back my char from this error:

"An unrecoverable error has occurred. Reset data and reload?"

even when I remove the chest from my toon in game, already clear all cookies and even try in a different navigator (currently using Firefox and switch to Chrome too) but no luck.

Last edited by Mayunia : 11/15/12 at 4:54 PM.

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Old 11/15/12, 3:44 PM   #27
Haileaus
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Originally Posted by Pathal View Post
If there are (several) Gara'jal logs you think are good, I can study them to try and find any mistakes I made in the backend, otherwise I just don't have enough data to diagnose any issues in the system.
I was thinking I might just make some logs. Unfortunately the best weps I have for subtlety are a heroic 5-man dagger and the fist from the first part of LFR, so I was thinking I wouldn't do any tests until I get a second MoP dagger.

Last edited by Haileaus : 11/15/12 at 3:49 PM.

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Old 11/15/12, 6:51 PM   #28
Litvan
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Stormrage (EU)
Love to see SC gettin back into shape!

One question though.
Expertise for assassination, for some reason SC reforges my items Litvan @ Stormrage EU to only have 1625 exp rating, and that can't be quite right. I was under the assumption that the rule of thumb was to stay in the range of 2550, leaving me well short.

With that kind of difference from SC to what most other places says, can I actually use the EP weights from SC in eg. askmrrobot at all?

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Old 11/15/12, 7:01 PM   #29
• Aldriana
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You can use the EP anywhere you want. However, the reforging you're seeing is caused by the EP weights - for most Assassination gearsets, Mastery is more valuable than Expertise, so at current gear levels you will tend to cap Expertise only if a significant portion of your gear has mastery on it already.

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Old 11/15/12, 7:41 PM   #30
Litvan
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Stormrage (EU)
So since most of my gear has +exp it recommends mastery, completely disregarding the exp cap for a boss to dodge an attack? (sorry for a "nub" question, but if it does that makes little sense to me that it'd disregard the exp cap)

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