Maybe my case isn't original, where I took enchanting on my warrior, and in the end chose tailoring as secondary profession, to provide disenchantable items, and to help out my mage who I'd be leveling after with cloth CD's.

From MH only or from OH as well?
What about other "chance on hit" effects? We can assume they will proc too, can't we?

And well, may be tricky to test it on dummy, but I wonder if killing spree can be used while disarmed (I doubt) or can a rogue be disarmed while on Killing Spree.

I know that things will change about fourty times before WotLK or even 3.0.2, but I'm looking forward to read some new blog entries about rogues in Northrend

Blacksmithing, being able to build weapons, always had some relationship with mélée class, even it had a much tighter one with plate classes.
This is a distinct difference compared to tailoring, which had a complete and total disconnection with physical damage.

As kargathia mentioned, melee typically take Tailoring to feed Enchanting ... it doesn't take a gathering profession to make greens/blues to DE. Also, they may want bags or to sell specialty cloth. Netherweave Nets can come in handy, too.

There is also the occasional cloak with melee stats, or I guess if people like making the "RP" clothing, like shirts or Tuxedos or something.

I think it's just a nod from Blizzard that melee Tailors exist, not an indication they are going to do something to Tailoring that will attract a lot of melee.

While the inability to use Specials during Killing Spree is annoying, it does not actually change anything because you can easily pool and you will only ever be getting 25 energy during the Spree (and just have to make sure you do not cap out).

Auto-attack turning off, on the other hand, is a serious nerf to the ability. If we assume Windfury Totem, Slice and Dice, 44 passive Haste Rating (since that's what I have) and Blade Flurry used on Cooldown, and 1 Heroism in 6 minutes (Brutallus).

Hasted Speed (MH) = 2.6 / ( (1+(35%)) * (1+(20%)) * (1+(2.5%)) * (1+(3.33%)) * (1+(((44)/100)/15.7)) ) = 1.523

OH = 1.4 / ( (1+(35%)) * (1+(20%)) * (1+(2.5%)) * (1+(3.33%)) * (1+(((44)/100)/15.7)) ) = 0.820

So in 2.5 seconds I get 1.641 MH attacks and 3.04 OH attacks normally. So about a 55% nerf to OH damage during the spree, and a 40% nerf to MH damage.

In addition, if we assume Combat Potency is 3 energy per second, Killing Spree also costs us 7.5 energy.

Is this confirmed? If so very unexpected as blizzard know the situation between combat and mutilate. I dont see them nerfing another combat talent because its just giving themselves more work. It just seems pointless.

Lemme just CttC after reading through about 40 pages and still not being able to find what I want..what have the meters been saying about the new talents before WotLK that are about to be implemented? Perhaps I am in the wrong forum, but I am trying to decide between remaining swords(Blade of Infamy and Savagery) in the combat tree, going purely muta spec, or speccing a MH Fist/OH Sword or Dagger spec with the new talents. I have the option of picking up the Badge MH or Dagger MH to go along with my Blade of Savagery/Dagger Badge OH. Normally I would DL a spreadsheet program but my laptop is unable to handle it without crashing at this time. So much like the meters have been in the favor of Combat swords for a long time, what is rising to the top of the new specs?

Beefyfife, just remember that several talents and skills are still very much subject to change. The trees are probably starting to look like their final forms for release of 3.x but don't put all your eggs in one basket. At this point even minor changes could change the types of daggers you want and other gear deciding outcomes. Be informed and prepared but don't set your path in stone by any means.

I'll tell you what I'm going to do (in order of importance).

1. Keep all the weapons you have, don't vendor anything (duh).
2. Spend DKP on weapon types you don't have (eg a fast dagger).
3. Save enough badges enough to buy the 1-2 weapons you don't have when 3.x drops and to re-gem the appropriate gear set (about 11-12 gems should do most people). That's 330 badges or so.
4. Keep enough enchanting mats in the bank (don't expect the AH to have any when 3.x drops) to do 3 mongoose enchants.

If you've done that, just sit back and let the skills fall where they may. When 3.x drops you'll be able to spec/gear appropriately without having to do anything drastic.

I do not believe anyone has posted a link to this, but there was an official blue response on our beta forums today that they are still looking to boost combat. Link below:

Rogue Beta Forums Blue Post re: Combat Damage needing a boost

Quote is below:

Koraa said:

So I was thinking about a Utility spec, and came up with:

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?rogu...11000000000000

Hemo spam with Master Poisoner, Improved Expose armor and Focused Attacks. Anyone have some general thoughts about the spec?

I was thinking recently , scary I know, but with the changes to backstab if it would have any spot in a mutilate build? This is all hypothetically speaking mind you, but would it be a good use of say if Ruthlessness doesn't proc and you get a Muti BS to guarantee no pasted CB points ?