The Roguecraft Spreadsheet - Page 51

Neto- · 12/21/08, 1:50 AM

Well, it makes sense. Check your landed hits/second, if your OH is > the MH, that means WP would proc more on the OH, and the MH should be able to keep a decent uptime on DP.

Nihilism · 12/21/08, 3:26 AM

I am having some trouble getting the spreadsheet to run. I don't know much of anything about Excel, so I am not sure how to fix it. Basically when I open the Spreadsheet after it downloads it brings up the menu of worksheets to important, and lists them in order Version History, Talents & Settings, etc. Version History loads just fine, however when I try to load anything else I get an error message : "Namebackenchantstat.. could not be translated. The name was either too long or in a format not supported by Works. Works will skip this record. Click Yes to continue loading and display other errors, Click No to continue loading and suppress further errors, or click cancel to stop loading the document". If I click yes it continuously scrolls through error messages and eventually shuts down with an error message saying Excel needs to be closed down. If I hit No it does the same thing. I was able to operate the Burning Crusade one just fine back in the day, if anyone can offer any solutions I would greatly appreciate it, and I apologize if this has been covered already, I was unable to find anything on this topic.

Radmsc · 12/21/08, 7:45 AM

Now that I saw a little discussion about poisons, it made me curious about my own situation. I am a mace-specced rogue, because I am a dwarf. I got around 3300 AP, 26% crit and 227 hit rating, which gives me 6,92% increased chance to hit. Next to that I am expertise-capped. What would be the best poison to use? I am currently using wound poison on both hands.

onkl · 12/21/08, 8:50 AM

You're asking this in a spreadsheet thread instead of using the sheet yourself?

Wound goes on the weapon with the most attacks and Deadly on the other. Only the spreadsheet can answer you if double Wound is a DPS gain for your gear.

Radmsc · 12/21/08, 5:12 PM

Well, as the dwarven racial isn't properly implemented, I'm asking it in here. I don't understand why I received an infraction, because the sheet is not working properly in this case.

drumbum · 12/21/08, 5:19 PM

Originally Posted by Radmsc

Well, as the dwarven racial isn't properly implemented, I'm asking it in here. I don't understand why I received an infraction, because the sheet is not working properly in this case.

The dwarf racial is implemented properly, as explained earlier in this thread.

Radmsc · 12/21/08, 5:40 PM

Then I overread it and do apologize...

Xythil · 12/21/08, 7:23 PM

Vulaj, your spreadsheet is indicating to me that 5s/5r is superior to 5s/5r/5evis, what would be the reason for this? I am running the Rupture glyph. Was under the impression 5/5/5 was the superior rotation these days.

Doing a 5/5/5 I never see SnD drop, but rupture can and does drop at times depending on the fight.

Any settings I should adjust on the sheet to maybe adjust for better results?

• Vulajin · 12/21/08, 7:31 PM

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Xs/5r cycles are still superior. However, I wouldn't say the cycle models are necessarily 100% accurate for any cycles involving Seal Fate or Glyph of Sinister Strike. Aldriana's Mutilate sheet has a much more accurate modeling style that I may adapt for Mutilate and Combat cycles in a future version of the sheet.

Xythil · 12/21/08, 8:27 PM

Originally Posted by Vulajin

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Xs/5r cycles are still superior. However, I wouldn't say the cycle models are necessarily 100% accurate for any cycles involving Seal Fate or Glyph of Sinister Strike. Aldriana's Mutilate sheet has a much more accurate modeling style that I may adapt for Mutilate and Combat cycles in a future version of the sheet.

What machanics would make 5s5r superior to 5s5r5e if SnD never falls and Rupture only falls once in a blue moon? If I went 5s5r I would be overwriting SnD with 15-20+ seconds left.

• Vulajin · 12/21/08, 8:43 PM

Just because you have 36 or 34.5 or however many seconds of Slice and Dice time, doesn't mean you need to use every last one of them. Cutting your Slice and running 5s/5r means higher Rupture uptime, or in other words more effective Rupture DPS, which could conceivably be a greater gain than Eviscerating once per cycle.

Xythil · 12/21/08, 8:48 PM

Originally Posted by Vulajin

Just because you have 36 or 34.5 or however many seconds of Slice and Dice time, doesn't mean you need to use every last one of them. Cutting your Slice and running 5s/5r means higher Rupture uptime, or in other words more effective Rupture DPS, which could conceivably be a greater gain than Eviscerating once per cycle.

Ya because of this I reglyphed for AR over SnD. Is the spreadsheet modeling the Glyph of AR in its current incarnation? With the 1 minute off KS as well? And has blizzard commented on this? Is it working as intended or bugged at the moment?

*Edit* The closer I get to 100% rupture uptime, the better 5s5r5e will become, correct?

Arindelest · 12/22/08, 1:48 AM

Originally Posted by Xythil

*Edit* The closer I get to 100% rupture uptime, the better 5s5r5e will become, correct?

Yes. Assuming 100% SnD uptime and Rupture uptime, the only situation where it would not be better to run 5s5r5e over 5s5r would be if Sinister Strike had higher DPE than Eviscerate, which is not only unlikely but I'm not even sure if it happens at any possible AP.

Kuriostone · 12/22/08, 11:55 AM

I am encountering some confusing advice on the spreadsheet. I am being advised that a [Bright Scarlet Ruby] will result in higher DPS than a [Delicate Scarlet Ruby].

My understanding of stat weights suggests that 32 AP should never outpace 16 agility for raw DPS. It seems unlikely that such a basic calculation is wrong in the spreadsheet, and so I'm left scratching my head. What have I overlooked?

Neto- · 12/22/08, 11:59 AM

Stat weights aren't static. If you think the spreadsheet rates every stat for the EP weight that's given to them, it does not. The spreadsheet weights stats in a much more complex manner.