There is no way to make Fist/Sword (in the general case) good in 3.1. You either use CQC, or Sword Spec, or Mace Spec, depending on which weapons you have available. Remorse is high enough iLvL compared to Murder that using your 1 filler point in SSpec might be better though. It shows a slight upgrade for my gear, but I didn't check yours.

My rogue is currently specced Mutilate with the common 51/13/7 build. I use Turn the Tables rather than Master Poisoner and have Murder rather than a filler talent. I have the Mutilate, Rupture and Hunger for Blood Glyphs.

I use the standard rotation and attempt to pool 60 energy before finishing. When, if ever, is it advantageous to use Eviscerate rather than Envenom (assuming it's not correct to Rupture at the time)?

Applying the same conditions as above; when, if ever, is it correct to Mutilate ( also assuming already at 4+cp) rather than finishing or pooling?

My Little Rogue

What's the different between putting your last three points into CQC vs TtT?

One of them is all attacks made by a dagger, the other is all combo moves.

Only time you could eviscerate is when having 0 DP stacks and close to capping energy with Rupture on target as well.
You should never mutilate past 4cp.

3% overall crit > 6% crit on mutilate.

I have to agree with this comment. I am in the unenviable position of being a fan of the combat spec, but lacking a good MH fist, or a good OH sword. So for a while I was hybriding with Silent Crusader in my MH and WD in my OH. My DPS went in the toilet. When I switched to Silent Crusader in MH and Grasscutter in OH, DPS went way up. Obviously, I am not an mathematician, so I can only express anecdotally that when I tried the sword/dagger combo, it just didn't work out at all.

Now, because I DO have two great weapons for a HfB/Mutilate build (Sinister Strike in MH and WD in OH), I finally gave in and specced that build out -- and I have to say, I really, really, really like it compared to the old days when I stumbled around trying to keep three stacks of HfB up, plus manage the higher energy cost of Mut, etc., etc.

I do miss my KSpr/AdrRush/BldFlurry spamming, but... I am really digging this 51/13/7 spec.

Cheers,
Campiona

I would assume (I honestly have not tested this) that if you had mace spec (With a mace in the MH, and a non-mace in the OH) that you would have the 15% armor ignore on main-hand white attacks, and specials. You would only lose out on the 15% armor ignore on the off-hand.

That would be tricky to test, but I suppose it could be done. At any rate, if you don't have a mace anywhere close to the power of WD, it may just be best to go that way.

Why is my envenom critical strike percentage ~.115, while my overall crit percentage is .32?

Well the question is what is your main-hand. If you're running with CG/WD, then you might be better off with those.

Although I'd suggest consulting Aldriana's Combat spreadsheet.

Say your character sheet displays 30% unbuffed critical strike chance, is this the number used to determine the crit percentage of your rupture via tier 8 four piece bonus? Can you clarify the method by which critical strike chance is applied to this mechanic?

Can combat potency proc off killing spree attacks, can poisons, can sword specs? Lastly, what is the most optimal combat opener given a situation where you can position before the pull (stealth opener) I am looking for the most consistent highest dps allowing opener. I often find myself using garrote, slice and dice blade flurry killing spree in that order as I open (I am under the impression that autoattacks still go off during killing spree hence the flurry even on single targets).

With combat do you use finishers on 4+ combo points to avoid wasting any via the ss glyph?.

Yes, that is the current consensus at this time. Add in Debuffs that increase crit% against the target (Totem of Wrath, Master Poison, Heart of the Crusader) as well.

For combat, you'll generally open up with Garrote. You can either follow this up immediately with SnD and then start working on your rotation, or you can just work on your rotation immediately, adding whoever many SS's you need to get started. KSpree procs everything that a normal melee swing can proc. Because of this, you generally dont want to use KSpree if you have a lot of energy. KSpree will proc Combat Potency, so if you're sitting at 50 energy, you will most likely cap out on energy. You usually want to use KSpree when you're low on energy (0-20). By the time KSpree is over, you should be full on energy again, and ready to do whatever.

So there have been alot of talk about sword specc and if it is good or not.

Say you have 2x swords with good stats.
And you have a fist and a dagger with the EXACT same stats and speed as the swords you have.
Provided that you are a human rogue and have around 300hit what would be the best option to use in such a case?

For single target, Swords, for anything with FoK'ing involved, Fist/Dagger, unless you have a 2nd slow offhand Sword (benefits might be minor however).

I don't intend to ask for handholding but I'm rather confused at the moment. This is normally the point where i would decide to rely on my spreadsheet (roguecraft) but it hasn't been updated lately and frankly aldriana's scares the crap out of me =]

I've picked up a few pieces since 3.1 and the things i've replaced just happened to be a large contributors to my expertise. So i'm having trouble deciding whether it would be most beneficial for me to gem all of my available slots for expertise (which STILL wouldn't get me to the cap)
OR
equip Mark of Norgannon which has 69 expertise and then fill in with a gem or two.

My conflict lies in that the two best trinkets i have are Pyrite Infuser and Mirror of Truth so equipping the mark of norgannon would be a downgrade overall. I can't properly reason exactly how much because aldriana's sheet doesn't include the mark of norgannon and vulajin's sheet isn't updated with the infuser, haha.
So...which will give me the best dps in this situation?

Wearing the bad trinket that has the expertise i need?
Or completely regemming for expertise and then sitting a little below 26 until i get some more upgrades?

Hi!

I can't decide what gems to use. In a full Heroic Violet Hold my melee statics are the following: Hit 37.6%, Crit 29.4%, Miss 15.4%, Glancing 13.1%, Dodge 3.5% and Parry 1%. So my question is that 15.4% Miss is too much? :S
Here is my gear: The World of Warcraft Armory

A spreadsheet

Agility Gemming is the best choice with T8, especially looking at the T84p bonus (Crit). In addition the extra dodge offered by Agility (since trash with Ulduar is again important) is useful.

As for Combat Specs, the current wisdom is between 15/51/5 and 18/51/2, I prefer 15/51/5 as it offers me more stability.

hmm just would like to know if somebody tryed 15/51/5 combat but instead of 2 points in blood splatter, 2 points in improved evis. and in addition to that evis glyph instead of ruptre (evis, ss & killing spree). and just playing without ruptre, cause i was just wondering even with an uptime of ruptre of almost 100% it#s only about 4% of your whole dmg. ok with 4 T8,5 it#s a differnet thing but right now, i just dunno ...

Even with increased crit from Glyph and damage from talents, rupture is still superior.
Also your Eviscerate is also only 2-3% of your total damage, usually even less than rupture.

(Mutilate)

If I have 355 hit (without gemming or food etc) would it be better to drop some points in Precision for other talents? My spreadsheet says 3/5 Precision and filling 5/5 CQC would gain 22dps, but I'm wondering if sticking a point in Imp SnD would help get a few more envenom out too. I've noticed in quite a few cases the insane reapplication of DP from Master Poisoner gets me to 5 stacks with a 4 point Mutilate whilst I have plenty of time left on SnD and Rupture. If its possible to spam a 4/5 point envenom like this should I?

If anything, I'd look into 51/7/13.